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[Submitted 69635] Return Balloon returns you to an empty dungeon/basement

Discussion in 'World Building, Scenes, Environment, & Overworld' started by Owsley, Aug 26, 2021.

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  1. Owsley

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    08/26/2021 18:59
    Title: Return Balloon returns you to an empty player dungeon
    Reproduction Rate: 100%
    Blocker? No
    Details: After exiting my dungeon and using the Return Balloon in Harvest, I returned to an empty dungeon. All the deco was gone and my name was no longer showing as the owner in the title.
    Steps to Reproduce: Exit Player Dungeon, use return balloon
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    OS: Windows 10 (10.0.0) 64bit
    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-9700F CPU @ 3.00GHz (8) System RAM: 16312
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    SotA.Win.64.1433.Date.08.26.21
    Area: Novia_R8_City_Harvest
    Area Display Name: Harvest
    Loc: (29.2, 38.2, 205.0)
    Debug: Tm92aWFfUjhfQ2l0eV9IYXJ2ZXN0fHwoMjkuMjE3LCAzOC4xNTIsIDIwNS4wNDUpfCgwLCAtMC44MzcsIDAsIDAuNTQ3KXwyMTkuNjAwMnwxMy41NzY1Mnw2LjA1MTA5NA==
     
    Owsley, Aug 26, 2021
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    I am also seeing this as well:

    Enter my dungeon foyer, use a Teleport to Zone scroll to Desolis. After entering Desolis click the return to previous location Balloon. Load back into Dungeon, that is un-owned and empty. Exiting dungeon Takes me to Desolace.

    08/26/2021 22:14
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    CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-1620 0 @ 3.60GHz (8) System RAM: 16303
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 GPU RAM: 8079
    SotA.Win.64.1433.Date.08.26.21
    Area: Novia_R4_City_Desolis
    Area Display Name: Desolis
    Loc: (-397.3, 104.3, -91.2)
    Debug: Tm92aWFfUjRfQ2l0eV9EZXNvbGlzfHwoLTM5Ny4yODgsIDEwNC4yODEsIC05MS4yMTUpfCgwLCAtMC41MjQsIDAsIC0wLjg1Mil8MTg0LjIwNDV8MTEuNDAxMTF8MTcuOTk0NTc=
     
    Anpu, Aug 27, 2021
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  3. Alley Oop

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    applies to basements too.

    @Sannio, i think this was already the case, it just didn't get noticed much when the main/only one was at fishing expedition.
     
    Alley Oop, Sep 1, 2021
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  4. Sannio

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    Two important things to keep in mind here: Dungeon scenes are like POTs in that each one is a basic template that is shared by each player's dungeon. Also, recently-visited scenes remain active for a few minutes but eventually shut down after vacated for too long.

    For those people who left their player dungeon and later used the return balloon, how long did you wait to use the balloon? I suspect that if you returned right away then the dungeon would still be an active scene and there would be no issue. However, waiting too long means the dungeon scene shuts down and you're simply returning to the "blank" template version of that dungeon scene.

    [EDIT: Something similar would happen when trying to return to a Siege.]

    Alley Oop is right in that it's always been something that can happen with "return" teleporters (like the one in Fishing Expedition) and we're not yet considering it something that needs to change. But we'll keep an eye on these reports and reserve the right to change that consideration. (It's possible we might have to make the call between no change, "new tech," or remove the teleporters. Unfortunately, in the short term, I fear "new tech" is probably not an option.)
     
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    Sannio, Sep 2, 2021
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  5. Alley Oop

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    nope, returned before i had even lost spawn protection.

    [9/2/2021 5:58:43 PM] Entering Fishing Expedition from Row Stone & Timber 1-Story Basement
    [9/2/2021 5:59:03 PM] Entering Row Stone & Timber 1-Story Basement from Fishing Expedition
     
    Alley Oop, Sep 2, 2021
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  6. Sannio

    Sannio Lead Quest and Level Designer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    Thanks for all the info everyone, added as issue #69635
     
    Sannio, Sep 2, 2021
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    Tested in sieges, and it starts a new instance even if re-entering in under a minute.
     
    Echondas, Sep 4, 2021
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  8. Belladonna Rose

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    11/23/2021 16:16
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    OS: Windows 10 (10.0.0) 64bit
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core Processor (12) System RAM: 16316
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB GPU RAM: 2988
    SotA.Win.64.1489.Date.11.22.21
    Area: BasementSceneDungeonVillage_Arena
    Area Display Name: Village Stone Arena Basement
    Loc: (33.8, 5.0, 21.8)
    Debug: QmFzZW1lbnRTY2VuZUR1bmdlb25WaWxsYWdlX0FyZW5hfHwoMzMuODA2LCA1LjAyOSwgMjEuODAxKXwoMCwgLTAuMDA0LCAwLCAxKXwzNTkuNTQxNnwxMHwxLjI1
    Landed me in a village arena basment like i have but was empty. Took the ladder up and ended back at the balloon
    Area: Castle Atos (Novia_R1_City_CastleAtos) Loc: (-89.653, 108.116, 556.233) DBG: Tm92aWFfUjFfQ2l0eV9DYXN0bGVBdG9zfHwoLTg5LjY1MywgMTA4LjExNiwgNTU2LjIzMyl8KDAsIDAuNDYxLCAwLCAtMC44ODcpfDMwNS4wNzU2fDEwfDEuMjU=
    This is return location
     
    Belladonna Rose, Nov 23, 2021
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  9. Sannio

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    This is a known issue. When you use any “Return to Previous Location” teleporter to return to a basement, you'll return to an empty, default version of that same basement.
     
    Sannio, Nov 23, 2021
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    1. Title: Previous Location Basement
    2. Reproducible? Yes
    3. Blocker? no
    4. Details: Teleport to Zone. To Castle Atos from Basement. Hot Air "previous location" Balloon.. returns to basement. Attempt to climb ladder to exit basement, returns me to Castle Atos...
     
    Omnedon, Mar 10, 2022
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  11. Alley Oop

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    yes, the exits of basements always take you to where you entered them from.
     
    Alley Oop, Mar 10, 2022
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    I used the return balloon at Castle Atos to return to my last place. I loaded in my basement but there were no lights or deco loaded. I used night sight and notice there was no deco loaded at all. I tried to exit the basement
    but I went back to Cstle Atos "Entering Castle Atos from Village Stone Arena Basement". I then tried to go back to my previous location from Castle Atos and again no deco at all in basement, I tried to exit the basement again the went back to Castle Atos "Entering Village Stone Arena Basement from Castle Atos" "Entering Castle Atos from Village Stone Arena Basement". I exited the game back to the login screen and when I resumed I was still in the empty basement even with letting the timer count down till my character was out of game. I had to run out of the Castle Atos Screne to Novia to escape the loop. I used a recall scroll from Novia in order to be able to see the deco in my basement again.


    04/11/2022 15:01
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    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-7700 CPU @ 3.60GHz (8) System RAM: 32731
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 GPU RAM: 2007
    SotA.Win.64.1525.Date.04.06.22
    Area: BasementSceneDungeonVillage_Arena
    Area Display Name: Village Stone Arena Basement
    Loc: (33.2, 5.0, 3.6)
    Debug: QmFzZW1lbnRTY2VuZUR1bmdlb25WaWxsYWdlX0FyZW5hfHwoMzMuMjEyLCA1LjAyOSwgMy42MTUpfCgwLCAwLjAzMiwgMCwgLTAuOTk5KXwzNjEuODMxMnwxMS43MDE4OXw1LjkzMTE1NQ==
     
    eldernewf, Apr 11, 2022
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  13. Sayge Raine

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    08/03/2022 09:10
    Title: Return to Previous Location boats teleport to blank "Player Dungeon" and basements.
    Reproduction Rate: 100%
    Blocker? No
    Details: The Return to Previous Location boat will send your character to a blank "Player Dungeon" or basic basement instead of the dungeon or basement you were actually in. (See Screenshots) Tested using the boat in a PRT. Did not test the balloons.
    Steps to Reproduce: Enter a player owned dungeon or basement and then exit and use a Return to Previous Location teleporter. This will teleport you to a blank generic "Player Dungeon" or basement of the type you entered.
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    OS: Windows 10 (10.0.0) 64bit
    CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1400 Quad-Core Processor (8) System RAM: 16336
    GPU: Radeon RX 580 Series GPU RAM: 4076
    SotA.Win.64.1567.Date.08.01.22
    Area: PlayerDungeon_GreenBrickFoyer_3Connections
    Area Display Name: Player Dungeon
    Loc: (-0.3, 0.0, 10.0)
    Debug: UGxheWVyRHVuZ2Vvbl9HcmVlbkJyaWNrRm95ZXJfM0Nvbm5lY3Rpb25zfHwoLTAuMzM2LCAwLjAwOCwgOS45NjMpfCgwLCAwLjk1MSwgMCwgMC4zMSl8MTM3Ljk1ODd8My4yNTk2OTZ8My45NjkyNg==

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  14. Sannio

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    Thanks for the extra info!

    We have all the information we need on this issue at this point. It's considered a "known issue" that using the "return teleporters" will send you back to a default/blank version of a basement or player dungeon that you just left. We need new tech to correct this situation.
     
    Sannio, Aug 3, 2022
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  15. Ragnar Tryggvy

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    This is a reproduceable issue. It does not block any access. When using a teleport to zone scroll from my 5 level stone row basement attached to my 4 story greenhouse row house in Silverdale Market to zone to Castle Atos, I arrive at the entry point to town fine, but when I use the balloon to return to previous location, it puts me in an empty stone basement and when I climb out it puts me at the Castle Atos balloon instead of my house. So it is seeming to think that I'm teleporting to a basement attached to Castle Atos instead of my house in Silverdale Market.

    If you need any other information, please feel free to contact me. In game character name is Ragnar Tryggvy. Thank you for your great work.
     
    Ragnar Tryggvy, Jun 4, 2023
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