Is agriculture back in the game?

Which is why we need Wodka ingame in addition to Beer, Ale and Whiskey. Or Schnaps - anything that is derived from potatoes and uses lots of potatoes in distillation.

Planters come in many sizes, from the planting pot for 1 plant to small to large.

 

i just wanted to post a clarification for folks that may get the impression that in order to profit selling crops to NPCs that cotton is the only option. while most crops are not profitable selling to an NPC, there are some other than cotton that you can still turn a great profit. cotton is the best yes, but you can also nearly double your investment from:

Garlic (24 hour) - 2nd best profit
Mandrake (48 hour) - 3rd best profit
Nightshade (48 hour) - 3rd best profit

so if you are all about profit, then cotton is the way to go... but if you are like me and find cotton frustrating to water in its later stages, then there are few other plants that also turn a good profit. as an added bonus, Garlic and Mandrake also sell pretty well to players.

 

I tried about a page and a half back. It seemingly falls on deaf ears.

 

My imagination can't stretch far enough
~Time Lord~

 

I'm saying that the search for vendors throughout the city has CANCELED a beautiful part of the game (which of course those who don't play as a merchant even see but those who work as administrators of the game cannot fail to know)

 

I guarantee that lack of a vendor search drove more players from the game than it ever drew in. As thematic as it was, hunting around a larger city for a half hour to find a vendor selling some random ingredient you needed for a recipe stops being fun real quick.

 

Yup.

 

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Vendor search is really at the heart of the matter here, at least from how the designers envisioned the economy working. In the ideal world, Time Lord would be harvesting his crops and then going to a town to either sell his wares on a vendor, either his own, a guild's or a public one, or selling his wares to a vendor based on a buy order created by another player. Larger cities being what they are, Vendor search would be the only efficient way for TL to find the going rate or locate decent buy orders. Vendor search is why TL shouldn't be complaining about failing to turn a profit. Unfortunately, the prerequisite there is a robust economy, which sadly SotA lacks at the moment.

 

We just don't have the player numbers, so we make due with what we have.

 

Technically, I wouldn't say the player count is the issue, there are single player games with more robust economies than SotA, it's more that the economic system as designed requires more players to be robust.

In a way, that's not a bad position to be in. It means the issues can be fixed by either getting more players or adjusting the design. For example, you take those daily drop off crates, and crank the pattern to 11, that could kickstart a robust economy in a hurry, even with the existing player base.

Basically, there needs to be a sink for the billions of gold sitting on player vendors at the moment.

 

I don't know. I couldn't sell crocodile heads in Grusk. Well, except for @Alley Oop . I'm not so sure those weren't pity buys.

In the meantime I farm potatoes and peppers on an industrial scale to make sandwiches for the XPs.

 

i felt bad about taking them all and left some for others. otherwise, i WOULD have taken all of them, no pity!

i think people just didn't even think to check the public vendor there.

 

Why croc heads though?

 

Storehouse daily there.

 

I agree with Time Lord on this. I think it is really dumb that you can buy seeds, grow crops that players will not buy, and then sell to the NPC and lose money on the deal. I hate growing cotton because the third water is such a pain.
I personally lost over a million gold when they did this changeover. I got stuck with 600k in tea leaves when they made this change. There was no warning. It put me off of farming. I have 12 dungeon farms and 8k outside planting beds in my town. I use to grow a lot, and now I just mine because it is much less of a hassle.
The fact that you can grow some crops, and have no way to get your money back out of that crop because the NPC only pays one gp is just ludicrous.

 

I'll ask you the same question that TL left unanswered "Why should farmers be entitled to make a profit without dealing with other players while blacksmiths, bakers and tanners are not?"

 

If it would be a relief to your frustation you could just hand over those farms to me so that you don´t have to see them reminding you of your lost dreams...

 

Time lord answered this.... because it is incredibly expensive to farm. I have 40 placed deeds and houses in the game. You need to buy all of the planting beds, you need to spend tens of millions expanding your dungeons, you need to keep track of everything and get up in the middle of the night to water. It is a huge pain to run a big farm, and you get no exp for all of the watering, only for planting and harvesting. Not to mention the millions of gold to buy all of the seed. If I planted all of my beds, we are talking about close to 100,000 seeds.