Character customization?

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    I seem to recall at some point suggesting crowdsourcing animation and customized idle animation playlists for that exact purpose. Didn't spark a huge discussion at the time but it's out there. :)
     
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    Possible a custom walk system like in QWOP? *duck*

    But to be honest, would be indeed nice to have different walk and idle animations. Skyrim had only one and this one extremly ugly. So it was a must, to install some other animations. ;)
     
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    here are some armor sites to consider for the game. Fantasy armor looks funny. Take a look at this and let me know what you think.

    I have not seen an artist draw armour the right way of the historical patterns since the game
    Chivalry Medieval Warfare by Torn Banner studios in a very,very long time. Its time we do the work
    and do deep research on armor and clothing before the artist creates it.

    http://www.wassonartistry.com/armor.php?w=15thcent

    http://www.wolfeargent.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=31&t=000015

    http://www.englyshe-plate-armourie.co.uk/Gal_ItalianArmour.html

    http://www.militarymodelling.com/forums/postings.asp?th=22060[​IMG]
     
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    Looked on the different armors and yes, they seems to be this kind of metal armor.

    So now let's post some p***. Actually got some nasty amors out of google. Ok, yust some joke, but it should show, how i think about armors. So in general, "sexy and erotic" clothings shoudn't be forbidden and should be, but they should work how they would in rl. Ok, only female armors, because the error is often done there.

    Armors:
    They have to be protective and so sex appeal is only secondary.

    Here the no goes:

    Body form for protection:
    http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/th...rmor_f.jpg/233px-Warrior_Obsidian_armor_f.jpg
    http://madartlab.com/files/2011/12/hildelarge.jpg
    This armors covering the whole body, but the problem is, that they don't have a good form to block incoming hits. And are most time not very. So the protection would be lower. Could be done to a certain point, but shouldn't be to extreme to be unrealistic. Often they have aswell some additions, who are additional heavy and only good to get cut off.

    Partial Body protection:
    http://www.pipeshow.net/GW/goldy_mix1.jpg
    http://images.wikia.com/dragonage/images/6/60/Isabella_romance_armor.png
    http://dulfy.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/image2171.png
    http://digital-art-gallery.com/oid/...lf_girl_warrior_picture_image_digital_art.jpg
    http://wallpapersuzie.com/thumbnail...543x5088 wallpaper_www.wallpaperhi.com_59.jpg
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--mXtTTh6G...final_fantasy_xiii-2+fluttershy+lightning.png
    Well, this are worse armors. partial full body armors, but with open places. Ideal for a good fighter to get this areas with no protection, but heavy enough for the disadvances of an armor.

    Chain Bikini Armors:
    http://www.wallpaperhi.com/thumbnai...jective anime girl_www.wallpaperhi.com_36.jpg
    http://cache.desktopnexus.com/thumbnails/1083957-bigthumbnail.jpg
    http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2010/06/teraleatherarmor.jpg
    http://cdn-www.mania.com/content_pics/000005/47/52/1338c8dbcdb7e65a_large.jpg
    http://3d-stuff.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Grissel-Fantasy-Armor.jpg
    http://s3.gatheringmagic.com/uploads/2013/06/12/ML_4.jpg
    http://www.daz3d.com/media/catalog/...d27136e95/a/n/angeluz-fantasy-armor-large.jpg
    http://gomakemeasandwich.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/female-castanic.jpg
    http://www.blogcdn.com/massively.joystiq.com/media/2010/06/teramailgirl.jpg
    Now we have finally reached the worst thing ever. Actually heavy bikini who limit the mobility by their wight, but give zero protection. Yea, it looks sexy and there is nothing against this. But theres are other materials aswell.

    For this, we have to leave the leave the armor area. I skip the good armor section, because its exactly, what Oakwind posted.

    Clothings:
    Clothings are not for protection. So they can be sexy and very provocative. So bare skin shoudn't be a problem here. Of course you can wear everything you want, but i only want to view on it from a combat view.

    No goes:

    Impractical:
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QW2Vnilhp...CXoGSs/s1600/Free_fantasy+women-wallpaper.jpg
    http://www.wallpaperup.com/37429/Su...c_Horns_Armor_anime_original_fantasy_art.html
    http://media.tumblr.com/1ea581c7d6a2f235c3bb1e48eddfb8dd/tumblr_inline_mmvm1lP2YL1qz4rgp.jpg
    http://douchebook.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/7.jpg
    http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oW2KWFtuM...+knight+assassin++nier_replicant_by_Nawol.jpg
    Problem here is not, that there is much skin visible by some of them, more the dress and the silks. You can't fight very well in something like this, because you can become entangled in the dress. Not very good for fight.

    Goes:
    Clothings you can wear

    Partial/Full:
    https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/70776/Black.jpg
    https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAouk/XqSj2e8L5wc/s650/FlutterFantasyVI.png
    This clothings can be sexy, but because they aren't ment for protection, its no problem. Important thing is, it shoudn't block your movement, otherwise you would only have problems. Protection here is the agility. Aswell very nice for sneak action. (Assassins, etc.)

    clohting bikinis:
    http://www.malindalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/083011badhuntress.jpg
    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-WYxUskCmJ...+booty+pawg+anime+concept+art+by+Kveldulv.jpg
    Yes, thats meant serious. Ok, first one is a bit to non fantasy by the equipment but otherwise its fine. By the second one the bones are not so good. But others i found have shown to much skin for this forum here. ;) Yes, they have no protection, but are very light and sexy. So high agility and the enemy could become a debuff on accuracy, because its yust to hot for them. ;)
    But there should be aswell some downsites. Something like beeing very vulnerable to different conditions. (No clothings who protect the body. Weather, even poisones things who are normaly no problem with clothings. Could aswell be seen as inappropriate by some societies.)

    magical clothings:
    http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8545/8652791977_d1fd54fb97_c.jpg
    http://chroniclesofharriet.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/warrior-woman-5.jpg
    Possible would be aswell some additional clothing, but not necessarily. Metal is allowed here, but its for some enchanted runes. By the first its good visible by this stones. Should be of course a expansive piece of clohting. Not because of the few clothings, because there should be aswell ones with more clohting on it, but the important part is the magic here. The protection would be with some rune who create something like a magical barrier.

    Fazit:
    So we would have something very sexy aswell, but it would fit in the world from logic:

    Heavy Armor (Plate as example, conventional looking, not to sexy, full body covering)
    Light Armor (Chainmail or leather as example, aswell full body cover. This could have some more curves, because it would more likely go with the body, but should still cover everything)

    Clothing (There can be everything between full body clothing or bikini, because its not for protection. But because it need agility, it should be light and not additional armor parts as decoration. Very skinny clothings could have some accuraty debuff on the enemy, but youre even more vulnerable as somebody who wear large clothings. Aswell sometimes inappropriate.)

    Magical (This would work for different clothings. Even for some armors. But would become more expansive.)
     
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    Ok, last one isn't working. The first ones are good examples for me. The last one isn't working. But the other from the last ones are again bad examples. The decorations could prevent the enemy sword from sliding off and would force additional damage and the last one (from the working ones) are missing the leg protection. Injuring the legs would be very easy. ;)
     
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    Well armor is all well and good there are a lot of folks who will be not wearing it or only in a limited fashion. That's why good character customization is important.
     
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    Yes, one of the reason i made the suggestion for clothings, even with much free skin. But a heavy metal plate with the half body free would only slow down the movement and make fighting difficult. Therefore leather or stuff clothings are better for higher agility. Possible with some rune to protect on a magical way. For the character customization i personally hope, that we can change the proportion for the body. So for the female char as example, if we want a more curvy character on certain areas, it should be possible. ;)
    For the male aswell. It was stated, that we should be able to make our own self. And peoples have different proportions in different areas. So should be possible to do so.
     
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    nice armor
     
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    spring steel armor weighs only 60 pounds. thats the same weight as a army back pack has. armor is very light and you can run in it, jump, and do cart wheels. Very easy to move around in it.


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    is a great book to learn 14th century armour understaning








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    I really like the Core Online video posted in terms of character creation.. maybe mixing that with the one from GW2 could please a lot of people?
     
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    @Rihannon
    I agree. From the video though it looks like this is Ultima Online 2 in terms of aesthetic design of environment and character so I think we are safe on this front. I did not see many threads about it, but judging from the gameplay video, there will be tons of armors and clothing. I loved how you could combine so many different styles on your character, and importantly wear clothing on top of your armor...

    It brought great joy to travel with a cloak on, having players believe I had no armor and attack, which resulted in swift and terrible retribution haha.


    The crafting system sounds like it will let you embroider your crest on clothing and shields, which sounds pretty cool.


    I like the scratch & dented armor after fighting as well. Scars sound awesome, I definitely want my PK to have scars!
     
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    Unless you're wearing pauldrons and want to raise your arms above your head. ;) Gorgets are rather restricting too. The total weight varies someone depending upon the pieces you're wearing. I've heard estimates up to 80 lbs.
     
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    I hope you have Historical 15th century armor as well.



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    this is real nice work. This would be very nice to have in the game

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    A gorget has many designs and for 80 pounds is a myth unless you are wear heavy metal ,shield and sword for SCA club. I have such armor that weighs 80 pounds with a large kite shield, sword, mace and , pouches filled and my armouring jacket is all wet too. look up 15th century gorgets . you have alot of movement in them.


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    Didn't say you didn't have movement. I just said weight varies and gorgets and pauldrons can be restrictive. And the SCA isn't the only group that has people who wear full armor. :) In truth I wish more of them would. I saw some SCA guys up here in mismatch "armor" going at it with foam boppers a couple years ago. I was anything but impressed. (Not saying anything about all SCA folks.. just some of the ones up here). Baseball catchers padding and football helmets.. *cringe*

    I know people who are trained to fight with real weapons in full steel armor.. so if they tell me it gets up to (not always.. but up to) 80 lbs.. I would think they'd know particularly when they've been doing it for decades.
     
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    Do you study History or just listen to what people tell you what to think? It is easy to listen what the media says or what people say. Maybe there armor is not Historical. Is there armor Historical?
    Is there armour stainless, spring steel, etc........? What is it made from? What is there thickness of there helm or greaves ?
     
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    here is a good book that may help you understand some things I am talking about.


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