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[Fix Needs Testing 67907] Frostgeist Quest: too early be able to enter Looking Glass

Discussion in 'Quests, Conversations & NPCs' started by Paladin Michael, Oct 14, 2020.

  1. Paladin Michael

    Paladin Michael Bug Hunter

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    10/14/2020 16:45
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    Blocker? unfortunately not ;)
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    Meeting Esmeralda the first time, she tells us to climb up to the steeples top floor and examine where the blue light is coming from.

    Under the roof we find the (first) Mystical Looking-Glass.

    This is what we tell Esmeralda and she asks us to get a Frostgeist Skull, so she can extract an essence, she needs so we can enter the Mystical Looking-Glass.

    UNFORTUNATELY we can enter the Mystical Looking-Glass BEFORE the Frostgeist-Skull Quest is done :(

    This takes alot of fun away from this great quest ...

    Please, seal the (first) Mystical Looking-Glass on the steeple's top floor, until we receive the essence, Esmeralda extracts from the Frost Geist Skull :)


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    Sannio Lead Quest and Level Designer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    I didn't create this quest, but I believe the original intent here was to allow "explorer" players to find the looking-glass without being told to do so.

    My assumption is that you would prefer the looking-glass to be locked from use until on the quest. Is this correct? Or are you saying the quest is broken if you find the looking-glass before being told to go there, and if this is true then how is it broken?
     
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    the mirror is not supposed to be useable before the quest step to unlock it.

    [4/27/2020 8:00:33 AM] Esmeralda: If I'm right, the only way to use that mystical looking-glass is to make it think you're supposed to use it. You'll definitely need my help with this... but don't tell ANYONE! Go into the monastery's barricaded abandoned buildings and defeat a frostgeist, which is like a ghost but a lot colder and meaner. It's better to go at night since they mostly come out at night... mostly, as little Rebecca likes to say. Before it gets a chance to regenerate and come back, take its frozen skull and bring it back to me. Now go! Before someone overhears us.
    [4/27/2020 8:00:33 AM] Esmeralda wants me to bring her the frozen skull of a frostgeist.
     
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    What he is reporting is that ALL of the quest dialogue from Esmeralda is still reflecting the text that the mirrors are unusable. But now they are all unlocked.

    Suggestion: Edit her dialogues and just remove the entries that refer to unlocking the mirrors for use.
     
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    Sannio Lead Quest and Level Designer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    Thanks for the clarifications everyone! Issue #67907
     
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    I wouldn't recommend this, Anpu. This would destroy the interesting story. Giving all mirrors free from beginning is very confusing ...
    And there aren't all unlocked. The last one for the final step is -correctly- still sealed.

    The quest given from Esmeralda and further steps are based on the fact, that the first(!) Mystical Looking-Glass / Mirror is sealed.

    There is just one thing to do:

    Don't let the player use the first Mystical Looking-Glass BEFORE the quest with the first Frost Skull, given by Esmeralda, is done, so she can extract the essence from the Frost Geist Skull as I told above.

    That's all :)
     
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    You are allowed to find the mirror, before you meet Esmeralda. That's okay.
    But it's not okay ( = bug) to enter the Mystical Looking-Glas / Mirror, before you solved the Quest given by Esmerealda to get the essence (from the Frost Skull) to unseal it :)
     
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    That isn’t a bug if it is intended to have all the mirrors unlocked. But the dialogue text needs to reflect that.
     
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    Well, the storywriter, Puuk, if I remember right, wrote the dialogues and made the quests.

    And it seems logical, if we get the information from Esmeralda to bring a Frost Geist Skull to get the essence to unseal the Mystical Looking-Glass / Mirror, so we may enter it, that it was intended, that the first one is sealed ...
    And if it is not (still talking about the FIRST mirror), this is a bug, because the other way the dialogues makes no sense ;)

    As Alley Oop confirmed it above:
     
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    Sannio Lead Quest and Level Designer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    After re-reading Esmeralda's dialogue, it's clear that that she believes you can't use the looking glass until you bring her a frostgeist skull. I'll keep the quest and conversation as-is and restrict the looking glass teleporters from being used until after you complete her frostgeist skull task.
     
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    Greetings @Sannio :)

    Just additional information:

    The story goes on with bringing an Elder Frostgeist Skull for the 2nd looking glass and Frostgeist Hexe Core for 3d looking glass.

    So we also get access to 2 places where ghostly echoes are around (we need to meet 4 of them) to finish step 3.

    After this we can ask Esmeralda about the final step to open the last looking glass to meet the Geistesser himself ...
     
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    This is now working correctly in build 1313. The Mystical Looking-Glass cannot be entered until the player finishes the Frostgeist Skull quest. Then the mirror can be used. Thanks!

    11/25/2020 09:10
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