Moondial wonkyness

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  1. Barugon

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    I have been observing a moondial in order to gauge the accuracy of my cabalist chronometer and I've noticed that the planets do not cross the boundaries between the constellations at regular intervals. Sometimes sooner and sometimes later. Do the planets have a wobble? Does anyone know what the specific values for it would be? @Bowen Bloodgood? @Cora Cuz'avich?

    @Sannio, can you divulge any information?
     
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    No idea, I've never really watched the moondial that closely, or needed to watch how quickly or slowly the bodies move in increments smaller than a day. Though, if I had to guess, there's probably not a wobble and something else is going on. Do the objects in they sky match the movement on the dial when you notice these deviations?
     
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    If we use Dishonor, for example, it's rotational period is 2 hours (7200 seconds). If we divide the cosmos into 12 sections, one for each constellation, then that's 600 seconds per constellation. Taking into account the rotation of the cosmos itself (14 days) then that becomes 603.59281437125742 seconds for each constellation. However, this is not the case. The constellation spacing on the moondial seems to be very regular but Dishonor seem to slowdown on the Sacrifice side and then speed up on the Courage side. I thought that maybe it was some intentional inaccuracy introduced into moondials but the positions seem to match the actual planets (at least as far as I can tell).
     
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    I've spent a lot of time standing in this bloody fountain.

    [​IMG]
     
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    *it has not the center as the others is my guess from a computer programming point of view.
     
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    Does it cycle between positive and negative values when calculating orbits? *From an obscure GPL/NR#### bug that took years to figure out which led to every odd numbered lap being faster than every even numbered lap.
     
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    I could be something crazy like the planets speed up on the chaos side and slow down on the principles side.
     
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    Is this something you are seeing happening on all Cabalist celestial objects, or just some of them?
     
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    All of them, it seems.
     
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    Reminds me of the early days when the sun literally stopped at noon every day for 5 minutes. I suppose it's entirely possible for inconsistencies to still exist. The issue with the sun at noon didn't stop it from completing its orbit on time every day. Unfortunately, I never bothered to try to debug the moondials. Debugging the sky took several days (weeks?) including staying logged into the game with a tool taking screenshots every few minutes.

    All I can really say is.. I'm glad to not be the one standing in the fountain. :)

    Edit: Query - Have you observed the same behavior on other moondials? If only for the sake of determining whether or not the issue is moondial specific. Maybe useful, maybe not.
     
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    It really feels like this is intentional.
    [​IMG]
    Yeah, I whipped out an ornate moondial and it's the same.

    Anyway, I moved on for now or I'll never get this rewrite done.
     
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    it could be relevant to test it offline, in case it's some sort of time-synching problem with the server