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[Submitted] R78 - Troll Twin Toenails - Cannot turn it in!

Discussion in 'Quests, Conversations & NPCs' started by Smegatron, Jun 1, 2020.

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    Title: R78 - Troll Twin Toenails - Cannot turn it in!
    Reproduction Rate: 100% (yesterday and today)
    Blocker? Yes - Cannot get dodge buff

    Details: It seems that if your conversation with Tarian is interrupted in any way before turning in the Toenails quest, he then says to come back tomorrow.

    1) If enemy NPCs come in during the conversation and interrupt it for combat, this bug is triggered.
    2) About 33% of the time, Tarian stops the conversation as soon as you start it. And this bug is triggered.

    It seems that talking to him triggers the "daily quest done" flag instead of the actual completion of the quest.

    I believe this started when the change was done to make this a once-daily quest in R77.

    Steps to Reproduce: Go to Teneris Harbor. Aggro some NPCs, run to Tarian, start teh conversation. Let the NPCs interrupt the conversation with combat. Defeat the NPCs, talk to Tarian, and try to submitteh Twin Troll Toenails quest.
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    SotA.Win.64.1227.Date.05.31.20
    Area: Novia_R6_Forest02_01
    Area Display Name: Tenebris Harbor
    Loc: (-85.1, 31.9, -122.5)
    Debug: Tm92aWFfUjZfRm9yZXN0MDJfMDF8fCgtODUuMDU5LCAzMS44OSwgLTEyMi41MTkpfCgwLCAwLjU3MSwgMCwgMC44MjEpfDQ0MC4xNjczfDMzLjI1OTI1fDIuOTgyNTc5
     
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    @Smegatron , The "daily" flag should only be reinstated after Tarien receives the toenails. After Tarien receives both toenails, he gives you the daily flag again simultaneous to the reward.

    1. Can you tell me which keyword did you use to try to turn in the toenails? I'm assuming you did it with the default "hello" response, but it might be important if you ignored that and, for example, tried to do the turn in with the "help" response.

    2. Did you not have the toenails anymore, or did you still have both in your inventory?

    3. Immediately after this issue, were you able to activate the reward blessing?

    4. Is anyone else having the same trouble?
     
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    Thanks for the reply, @Sannio! Of course, I cannot duplicate this now. I have seen the "immediately interrupted conversation" many times before. but it is sporadic.

    Quick answers:
    1) Tried keywords troll, toenail, toenails, toe.
    2) I think the time I was interrupted by combat, I did not have the toenails. So maybe the message was wrong, confusing, or I did not read it well enough.
    3) I tried to activate the blessing but it did not activate.
    4) We'll see if anyone speaks up!

    I'll keep an eye out for it. :)
     
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    Sannio Lead Quest and Level Designer Moderator SOTA Developer

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    Thanks for the extra info!

    As a tip I've seen other players give, some people go in the back door of the building to avoid fighting the enemies at the front of the building. This helps avoid the conversation interruption.
     
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    @Sannio @Elgarion This quest is still broken. There is still some glitch that causes Tarian to immediately stop the conversation when you start it. He goes into the "you've just tried to talk to that PPC, please wait a moment". And after a moment you can talk to him and he says "come back tomorrow" for the toenails quest.

    Can you please take a deeper look at this? It is one of the few daily quests, And it provides a unique 3-day buff. Thanks!

    More info:
    1) I was not interrupted by combat.
    2) I did have the toenails.
    3) The buff was not active afterwards.
    4) The toenails were still in my inventory afterwards.
    5) I tried triolls, toemails, toe, nail, and a few other combos.

    Pics, to show that it happened. :) Note that the chat logs starts with me entering the zone:

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    06/14/2020 16:59
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    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 CPU @ 2.70GHz (4) System RAM: 16313
    GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GPU RAM: 6052
    SotA.Win.64.1233.Date.06.11.20
    Area: Novia_R6_Forest02_01
    Area Display Name: Tenebris Harbor
    Loc: (-84.2, 31.9, -126.3)
    Debug: Tm92aWFfUjZfRm9yZXN0MDJfMDF8fCgtODQuMTU4LCAzMS44OSwgLTEyNi4yOTgpfCgwLCAwLjgyNCwgMCwgLTAuNTY3KXwyNDguNjE0Nnw0MS4yODc2OHwxMC44ODI1Ng==
     
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    From the dialogue in the screenshot, it looks like the daily flag hasn't yet reset. I'll go over what I'm seeing so we're on the same page here.

    Tarien will accept troll toenails with his initial greeting, if you have them. (He'll also accept them with some other keywords in case that you don't trade them with the greeting.) We see Tarien greets you with "Ahoy, swab," or "Ahoy, <your name>," only when all other greetings are inapplicable. Because you've already done the quest at least once before, there's only 3 greetings he can give: one where he knows you do NOT have the toenails and are not blocked by the daily flag ("If'n ye have more troll twin toenails tomorrow..."), one where he knows you DO have the toenails and are not blocked by the daily flag ("You got *hic!* ...got any more..."), and a fallback response ("Ahoy, swab") for when neither of the previous two responses are valid.

    The hiccup that caused you to restart the conversation with him isn't relevant, and we know that specifically in this case because he gave you the same fallback response.

    Also, I don't know if this is relevant to your situation but I'll mention it anyway because it's probably interesting or important to players who pursue our daily quests: The daily flag doesn't reset 24 hours after you last activated it. All daily flags reset for everyone at the same time every day. (I forget the exact time, but I think it's midnight, Central Time.)
     
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    I think it is 7PM Central (at least for me, 8PM EDT has been the moment I can get my quest rewards each day).
     
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    @Smegatron Try the plural - toenails - or click on the keyword in his dialog.
     
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    It has always worked for me. I will pay attention to the exact way I do it and report that later today. :)
     
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    Thanks, @Sannio and every one else. A few things I can add...

    I had not done the quest in several days. So the daily reset is out of play here.

    He does state that I have already completed the quest when I type in any variation of the keywords. Which is consistent with the "Ahoy, Swab" greeting you mentioned.

    Given this it seems clear that something is flagging the daily quest as completed without giving credit or activating the buff.
     
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    That's the message you get if you don't have the trollnails. It's very confusing.
     
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    This is good info. And thanks to everyone for all the updates. I created a new task for myself, issue #67178.
     
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    @Sannio I noticed the buff for quest activates without needing to actually turn in the quest -- i.e: you can just walk over it and it will activate.