Wanted to clear something up

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  1. Brass Knuckles

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    Hello, I heard that some people were saying that New World copied shroud and I’d like to say rest assured there is absolutely nothing in NW that reminds me of sota.

    I am wondering if there is a road map for espisode 3 yet? I remember Starr saying navigable boats and would love to know when the eta is for them.

    thanks, bk
     
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    New World... copied Shroud... I've now soiled my self laughing and need to go change.
     
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    Yea I don’t get it, but I guess it was said on a stream some place.

    they pretty much have zero in common.
     
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    What specifically was copied from shroud?
     
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    Maybe some trees are similar?
     
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    for the life of me I cannot think of anything that’s similar. Two very different games beside the base obvious stuff like it’s in a fantasy setting you kill monsters and you craft stuff and there is housing.
     
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    They copied making much the game logic client-side, it seems.
     
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    There's not even an episode 2 yet.
     
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    That's akin to saying I'm going to put a database behind an app. Where the logic resides is simply an architecture choice; a choice that both apps may share but wouldn't rise to the level of "copied". Brutally honest... they should be looking at and stealing ideas from New World. Unpinning freaking quests!
     
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    There is nothing in NW simliar to Sota except they both use the same design engine for deco and such...as with all Unity games. Other than that nothing else is similar
     
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    New World isn't a Unity game is it? I thought it was built with lumberyard?
     
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    New world copied from us? If they did they did it wrong ;)
    They don't even have half our features, their housing system is a complet pita, game is repetitive, you can reach max level in a week then nothing is left for you to play with except PvP battles.
    I called this game a battle royal in new world chat once and people laughed, but no one said i was wrong. Anyway :p

    I did play 2 days when it came out also in september, reached level 30, and stopped.
    Walking around the world for quest is the main thing you do. Can be fun the first time you try the game, but i have played 2 of their beta plus this (about 3 week total) and i'm done !
    And if you look at steam numbers, thats pretty much what is happening, 3-4 week in and people already leaving or going back to their old game forum to talk about their experience. ;)
    I was hoping for more from that big of a company which hire hundred of people to work on this.

    But yeah nothing to compare really.
     
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    New World is not a Unity game.
     
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    I was able to start the game using Steam's Proton on Linux, but their anti-cheat crap prevented me from actually logging in. I got a refund.
     
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    As an aside, Lumberyard was renamed to O3DE and made open source.
     
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    heh didnt even know they had anti cheat... Not working well
     
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    You will have to ask Chris, he is the one who said in his stream starting at the 36:58 mark that he was told by several people that New World copied shroud.
     
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    Given the choice between an immatation Ferrari made from a VW Bug, or a Farrari, I'll take my SOTA Farrari and leave the NW Bug in the parking lot until it decides to park itself with all the other Bugs.

    NW, really fun until you take it on the highway ;)~TL~

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    Alright, *throws down gauntlet*, pet peeve time.

    Comparison doesn't mean equate. The two things don't have to be exact duplicates to be comparable. You can literally compare anything to anything. Comparing a network driver to a banana would produce mostly a list of dissimilarities, and would not be a good use of time. But that's how to figure out the differences and similarities between two things - by comparing them.

    A more productive use of time would be comparing things that are at least in the same category, of which New World and Shroud of the Avatar are.

    They're both level-progressing, MMO RPGs. You can further sub-compare their aspects of grindiness, consensual PVP, crafting, housing, etc. There's a lot to compare and analyze productively.

    But hats off for playing NW. One criticism the SOTA development has had, has been the devs not "getting out of the house" and experiencing other games, and instead working in their own bubble... if for no other reason that having an ongoing recalibration of what's "fun" or not.
     
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    agreed!

    sota has some cool features that are unique to the game people saying that nw copied shroud is the craziest thing I’ve ever heard might as well say NW copied pong(you know game from the 1970s with two paddles and a ball).

    DC is mildly correct imop, dc said you can max out level in a week I’ve no idea how to do that. I mean there are max level toons and it’s about a month later but I’m only level 36. There are no max level toons in sota and never will be.

    I loved that about sota, also I love the enchanting and masterwork ability. I wish stuff still broke on fails but hey it’s still a cool system.

    also I love the deco stuff you can do in sota.

    But that’s were it ends for shroud with me everything else is in the poor, bad and ugly categories.

    currently I’m losing sleep in NW I’m sure someday that will change and I’ll just find something else to play.
     
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