The Gold Conundrum: Gold is not Gold, Why?

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    Just wondering why there is a double standard in gold in the game. We can mine gold, carry gold, smelt gold, and use gold in crafting recipe's. It has a value and a weight and can be judged by it. The value of gold ore, gold ingots, and gold armor is not equal though. We have gold currency. Gold currency is not equal to any of what I have just listed. It is not equal to gold ore, gold ingots, or gold items. It is separate and different. If gold is not gold then what do we have?

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    I'm thinking that the value known as "GP" in the game is actually some sort of steampunk credit/debit card.
     
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    well I dunno about that man, some people might be like 'oh, he's troll' or 'he trollin' and I can't tell you much about that.

    All I know for a fact here is that if you really, really want an honest answer about anything, it's in Ardoris near the Kiln.
     
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    I will let you know what I find after I finish loading the Andoris scene next year lmao. *or possibly next release* Right now I lock up from lag half the time lol.
     
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    Purity of the coin might require more purification than simply smelting a gold ingot. 24karat vs 18 or whatever.

    Seems unlikely that we would want something so soft used as equipment maybe not nessisary to have something so pure for an enchantment.
     
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    Hrm, it makes me beg an answer then. Why do we use gold as a currency then? If gold is not really gold, or is a different kind of gold then we need something else. It just does not make sense to me. Can you elaborate on your idea of "more purification of gold? would that mean some kind of property change? Maybe like Platinum or something?
     
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    Maybe gold coins as a currency could be reworded in future as Novlar, Novin or Novan etc, Nv for short if trading or bartering.

    That will lessen the confusion with Gold ore, which does not translate into equivalent gold coin value.
     
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    Gold coins represents time investment.

    Its a way to equate the different activities in game. You can spend the time to make x number of gold by a variety of means....and expend that time investment to get other things that you may not want to do, or cant do as well.

    It has no relevance to real world economy.
     
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    interesting. Is there a formula for it?
     
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    time + rarity = money
     
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    Gold pieces have been individually inspected, approved and embossed by Sir Frank.
     
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    well yes that is true. But is "gold" rare in game, and why is there a difference between "gold currency" and "crafting gold" . When I say crafting gold I mean the kind you can mine and craft with. This is the conundrum I talk about. Why is it not tied together? Gold should be rare and valuable, and mintable.
     
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    well gold ore and gold coins still end up just as valuable using that formula.

    It would be impossible to program an in-game mechanism that would constantly alter how much gold coins should be able to be made out of however many gold ore, as gold coins/ore availability through in game practices fluctuates from patch to patch, and then even if you could it wouldn't be realistic that the amount of coins from ore would keep changing.

    Realistically though coins in the era this game is based on were manufactured by the government, and anyone attempting to counterfeit them would have been fed to the lurker.
     
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    I do understand that :). But it just strikes me as odd that we have two different kinds of gold in game. If they have a currency that does not take up space or weight then maybe they should rename the currency to "fiat money" or something, as it has no basis in the game economy, but just a presence there.
     
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    Doubloons AYE!
     
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    or simply "Crowns" as we already have crowns as a standard. EX. "Crowns" Of the Avatar.
     
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    Maybe its cultural. As an American I think 18 karat gold is gold but I suppose in India if it ain't 22k or more it ain't gold.

    I still think 14 karat gold is gold. I had a 14 karat gold chain and it looked like gold to me. I don't see why we need to use 24 karat gold on weapons and armor. Too soft. 24 karat gold is good for coins which were minted to certify that you are getting an accurate weight of pure gold.

    Also if we have 24 karat gold then we ought to be able to use metal scraps to create gold ingots for crafting purposes. That is if crafted materials use a sturdier and less pure gold.
     
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