Air Shield users

Lemme know when you do this so I can try to note things down!

 

Well, first of all, you are making the assumption that they have billions more, AND that they know how to use them. Also, most pvp fights are not 1v1, so, you either want to jump in the pool and get wet or your don't. You gotta decide. You will never close the gap if you never start moving. That's why I suggested a group lesson. I was planning to NOT set you up to fail, but put you in situations where you can begin to learn. It's up to you, i'm good either way. Antrax used to rock level 120's when he was level 95. It's about the tactics and play, the want to and the desire. I can help you, but only if you help yourself by letting go all your misconceptions and just come to the table with an open mind, willing to listen and learn. Conversation alone won't get it done. You have to put it in practice, that's the only thing that closes the gap. This would be 65% instruction, 35% practice. My door is open.

The group doesn't have to be huge, 3-6 or 8 or so people is perfect. Doesn't matter if people are new to pvp, or just new to pvp in SotA. We are going to start with the basics and work our way through.

 

Yes, you can make a list of the topics we go over with the important questions answered, it would be a great reference piece to help people remember what we cover. Grab a friend or 2 or 5 and get with Necronut and let's make if happen if there's people who really want to open up that part of the game for themselves.

Back when our guild was full and strong, and Antrax's Army was here, and Shadow People (some still here), we used to pvp night after night for months on end. Unbelievably fun, even when we lost.

 

lol
be cool if they added some loot only deco an you had to get 3 of the set to craft it =-D ( like what star wars galaxies did)

 

I hate air shield, it blocks my sneak attacks >.<

And i try to play without using magic cuz Arkah iz hardmode. Theres only 1 way to deal with air shield without having Torpid on your bar that im aware of and it was made to be alot less relyable long ago.

With a ultra low transfer ratio, its a skill that makes you invincible unless you are hit by the 1 skill that just negates it.

Theres other stuff like that where if you dont have this or that, your dead. Theres deffinately single skills in pvp that are Must Haves for one reason or another.

Its like rock paper scissors and you must have at least one of those things to be competative. Except theres also stuff besides a rock paper or scissors out there. Just none of them can beat rock paper or scissors. So there are lots of things that are not up to par with the handful of must-haves for PvP.

What beats a 0.1 air shield?
What kills you if you DONT have air shield?

 

How is that any different than when I fight against a quality fire mage? I MUST have purify on my bar to remove fire dots.
There are counters to almost every build. The fact that you don’t want to use them doesn’t make the build OP.

You stated that you don’t like air shield, basically because it prevents you from one-shot killing someone with sneak attack. So, there should be no counters to the build that you want to play, but you want to remove the only skill that makes an archer competitive?

A mage or melee that uses a shield correctly is very very tough for an archer to kill straight on.

I get killed lots of times in pvp, even with air shield. It’s really not that hard to eat through my air shield ( at .4) and kill me if you know how to fight, I was killed 4 times just 2 days ago in running fights in the fall.

the hilarious part is that all of you who are crying and complaining are people who I have NEVER seen in pvp in the whole game’s existence.

You have no real experience in what you are talking about, if you did, you would realize how wrong you are.

Lots of builds have and can kill me, specifically death mages, fire mages, earth mages, pole arms, and other archers. The difference is, they actually participate in pvp and know how to play.

I’ve offered time and time again to help people learn and no one ever seriously takes me up on it. I’ve offered hundreds of thousands in gold to cover people’s ransoms, straight up given people top end gear for free, given away all my ‘secrets’, the only thing stopping you from learning and being competitive is you.

If you aren’t going to get out in the field and do it, you really shouldn’t talk so much. To the people who actually pvp, you just sound ridiculous.

 

To be fair, I think that was meant as a joke rather than a serious complaint.

 

Corza’s right, i said i dont like it cuz it negates the one thing i can do good. None likes thier build being shut down.

I didnt say air shield shouldnt block sneak attack i said i dont like it because it does. And i didnt mention removing it. I didnt say anything should be removed. I dont 1 shot people with sneak attack either, im not that strong because im a subterfuge light armor specialist, which is mot a viable build.

Air shield should prevent you from taking mortal damage. Thats what its there for. Blocking nearly 100% of all damage until someone uses torpid, thats what people arent liking. You arent at that level but some folks in pvp are with thier air shield. This helps prevent being 1 shot by crit damage stacking, but is 100% negated by torpid.

So Rock. Paper (torpid) beats rock. Now the air shield archer is vulnerable to insta-death. Why does everything have to be so extreme?

Theres not a single build thats 100% protected from instant death. Instant death isnt fun.

And i do PvP. Especially people i dont know. You know why? Cuz i like my build, it 100% will never, ever win against yours. You dont know about that, simply because the build you like the most, works and is currently one of the top builds.

I faught you once, and my build doesnt work against yours, so i intentionally never faught you again. You just said in about as many words as i am now that it wouldnt be fair if that one single skill was made invaluable so telling me to change my build to you or sara or whoever’s build is bull. Youd quit the game if YOU had to.

Both the trees i specialize in are something that works in PvE, and is a very standard Assassin NON HYBRID build (you said before you cant be hybrid and win). It is constant touted as a completely useless, non-viable build, and i can vouch that in PvP this build Is insanely ineffective in PvP.

So, you know. Pardon me for preaching making other builds more viable.

 

No, I don’t think it was. He wants to complain about air shield and doesn’t want to be bothered to use the one skill that totally negates it. If it was a joke, it was a bad one, betraying the fact that he doesn’t pvp yet wants to rant. Everyone wants a risk free one button push for the win. It doesn’t work that way.

 

It surely can be a viable build, one of my old guild mates used it well. It’s more about the experience of playing and the tactics used than anything else. Crowquills , before he was ran out of the game, was PV ping as a tamer and totally wreaking havoc. It’s not the build, it’s your lack of participation.

 

What people? The people who never pvp?
There are only 1 or 2 people who have air shield to that level and honestly I’ve not seen them in pvp fights much either. It is very difficult to even get your shield to that level and to the experienced pvpers , we know how to deal with it. How come no quality experienced pvpers are complaining about it? It’s because they just torpid it off and fight. It’s just part of knowing your opponent and catering the fight to your advantage.

 

I faught one of them yesterday grumpy. They took 0 damage from every hit.

Well wait i apologize that guy was taking some focus damage it wasnt zero. They actually had a 0.14 focus transfer going on according to logs. Blocking 83% of all damage


I still retain that pvp is deffinately not balanced. Insta death is not fun.

 

Arkah, pvp is a lot more balanced than you think. For some reason, air shield doesn't seem to be a problem for the people who kill me. 1v1 duels is not pvping, it doesn't accurately allow for the variables of a running fight, and again, the huge majority of pvp fights are not 1v1.

I have no problem with putting a cap on air shield. I have said that multiple times. What I dis-like, is people acting like air shield is unbeatable, when that is not anywhere close to true. If you can't be bothered to use torpid, then should you have to use purify if you are fighting a fire mage? Should you have to use death warding gear when fighting a death mage?

Your arguments might hold a little more water with me if you were actually out pvping in the fall and other places on a regular basis, but you aren't. The people I fought 2 days ago had no problem killing me, because they used the proper tactics and skills available to them. If you choose not to do that, how can you complain?

 

the same goes for barding. If you are fighting a dexxer or ranger using sonata, and you are dumb enough to let them stand in their circle and fight you, then that's on you. That's why I say it is waaaaay more about the tactics of the fight that makes you win or lose. I'm not going to run up on a swords and shield guy and try to fight him toe to toe. I'm not going to run into a 6 stack of fire ring and try to fight a fire mage. You have to learn to play according to your opponent. PvP has always been that way in every game ever.

 

No it's not, and that's why it's a trial and error of experience of learning what killed you and how to counter/stay away from it. You aren't going to be able to do the same thing every time. Every fight is or can be different. That's why NOTHING except time put in the field makes you better. There is no magic skill tree to be a winner when you don't fight. There are no shortcuts to success. Everyone must put in the time to learn, I had to as well. I have died more times than you have ever fought.

 

Torpid doesn't work for you? That's funny, I thought the skill was available to everyone?

 

You just got done saying earlier if they nerfed air shield, ONE skill, it would be total bull and not fair that the build you like would then be useless.

Then you asked why i should complain if i choose not to use the “correct skills”. All while claiming combat is balanced. Thats what’s upsetting me.

 

Yes, if they totally destroy air shield I will be pissed. Putting a cap on it is not the same as nerfing the whole skill.

So, are you asking for a reasonable cap? or are you asking for air shield to be eliminated? Air shield and mobility is the only real defense an archer has. You seem to want to be able to overcome air shield without using the tools available to you. Your example of a .0 or .1 air shield is an extreme exception, not the rule, and even then, it is quickly negated the same way. What exactly are you asking, considering in the real world of pvp in this game, the examples you offer are not even an issue to the people who participate in pvp on a daily basis.

 

And, if there are skills that counter, then yes, that counts as balance. You choosing not to use them, or being upset that you can't just run with your normal setup and not have to make changes or adjustments does not mean something is unbalanced. Anyone who pvp's regularly knows that you are CONSTANTLY making adjustments and varying your tactics. that's part of what makes pvp so great and fun.

 

Even a good melee can counter it. Knockdown, torpid, stun, archer dead.