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Ancient Staff of Death affects undead pets more than Death passives

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    The artifact Ancient Staff of Death has more of an effect on the undead summoned by their respective Death skills than the actual passives Mummified Undead and Undead Mastery.

    Thanks to my friend @Cassyr Dubois, I witnessed the difference first hand with his GM'd Death passives and Lich.

    Currently, the new decay rate for the summoned undead pets has been slowed, but the damage has been amplified. Cassyr's Lich now decays at a rate of 11-12 health (the new decay tick is about 5 seconds for far more than the usual amount, for undead it was set at 3 before this Release) per decay tick without the Ancient Staff of Death equipped. For comparison from another source, my Lich decays at 14-15 health per decay tick, and it is only at level 50 with both of the appropriate passives at level 61. Yes, there is a small decrease in the decay damage, but it isn't much different, even at GM.

    For a better perspective on this, my Mummified Undead skill is supposed to decrease the decay damage by 36.6%, while Cassyr's Mummified Undead skill is supposed to decrease it by around 208% at GM levels
    However, with the artifact equipped, Cassyr's Lich only decayed at 6-7 health per tick. The staff only decreases the decay by 20%!

    But what about the passive skill Undead Mastery? While I don't test summons against each other anymore, after seeing the results from Cassyr's own test, I'm reconsidering it again.

    Below is a match between Cassyr's Lich and Paulie Walnut's Daemon (the daemon is almost GM'd). This first one is using the Ancient Staff of Death.

    [11/14/2017 8:25:21 PM] You commanded your pet (Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois>) to attack Luca <Paulie Walnuts>.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:26 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 42 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:26 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 8 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:28 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 34 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:29 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 18 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:30 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 52 points of critical damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:32 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 15 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:33 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 27 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:35 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 46 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:36 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 17 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:37 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 27 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:39 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 13 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:39 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 59 points of critical damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:42 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 26 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:43 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 7 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:44 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 50 points of critical damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:46 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 11 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:46 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 18 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:49 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 57 points of critical damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:49 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 15 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:51 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 17 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:52 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 14 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:54 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 32 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:25:54 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> has been slain by Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois>!

    Pretty good, at least for a summoned creature anyway. Here's what it looks like without (to save space, I only put about half of the fight in, since we are measuring damage here).

    [11/14/2017 8:27:08 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 13 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:09 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Paulie Walnuts and hits, dealing 19 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:09 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:11 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 26 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:11 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:12 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 10 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:13 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 30 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:13 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:15 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 15 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:16 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 15 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:16 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.

    [11/14/2017 8:27:18 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 23 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:18 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:18 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 20 points of critical damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:20 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 17 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:20 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:21 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 17 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:23 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 34 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:23 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:24 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 18 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:25 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> tried to attack Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and missed.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:25 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:27 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 22 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:27 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:28 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 36 points of critical damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:29 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 18 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:29 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:31 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 18 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:32 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 18 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:32 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:34 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 66 points of critical damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:34 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:35 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 8 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:37 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Luca <Paulie Walnuts> and hits, dealing 23 points of damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:37 PM] Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> attacks Cheetah <Daevin Aruth> and is out of reach, dealing no damage.
    [11/14/2017 8:27:38 PM] Luca <Paulie Walnuts> attacks Essence of Tor'Ganus <Cassyr Dubois> and hits, dealing 10 points of damage.

    Pretty noticeable difference in damage there.

    Why is the artifact that gives lower values doing more than the GM'd Death passives Undead Mastery and Mummified Undead?
     
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    Frankly, I'd be ecstatic if a similar artifact existed that boosted the damage of summoned elemental pets in the same way.

    Thanks for posting those stats @Perashim !
     
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