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Can't unlearn a skill if there is an unopened one below it

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  1. Vladamir Begemot

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    Title: Can't unlearn a skill if there is an unopened one below it
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    Blocker? In a way, can't get my XP back
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    You cannot unlearn a skill if there is a follow on skill that hasn't been opened yet.

    For instance, at this time, I can't unlearn Swiftness because I haven't opened Acrobatics. Since I'm unlearning all of Light Armor, that makes no sense. That XP is just trapped.

    Since there isn't a skill below it opened, I should be able to unlearn it to 1.

    Steps to Reproduce: In this example (works for all of them) train Swiftness to 35. Chance your mind and try to unlearn it. You can't.
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    @Vladamir Begemot AFAIK for a total unlearning you need a "potion of unlearning" (don't know the exact wording)
     
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    No, the unlearning item will take you down to whatever the rules allow. For instance, I totally untrained the Ranged tree manually, bringing the final skills down to 1, the early skills down to 20 (the next skill requires 20, so I can't go below that) and the majority down to 40. Even with the item that is the minimum we can go to.

    Here's the bug: It isn't checking to see if you actually opened the next skill. So it can never be unlearned until it's met the threshold to open the next one, whether you are going to open it or not. Expected behavior would be to be able to unlearn down to 1 if there is no skill opened below it, as you can with the last skills in the trees.

    This isn't just confusing me, I saw a post on reddit this morning about a guy trying to figure out why he can't unlearn something that clearly should be able to be, and everyone that helpfully responded was also incorrect about how the system works. I think it's because we don't spend much time unlearning, so this is just now showing up! :D
     
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