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Discussion in 'Release 49 Feedback Forum' started by Asclepius, Jan 19, 2018.

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  1. Asclepius

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    Possibly a bug, but a bit hard to take.
    OK so I was adventuring in Crag Foothills, flagged PVP for the XP bonus. Came to an area where there was a collection of skeletons and elves, so a brawl developed. Then on the edge I saw another player, also flagged. Hmm - is he going to attack..... err yes he is. Did the best I could in the mayhem but died.
    No issue there, all fair and above board. Got the message about ransom, as I had died to an outlander. Couldn't care less as it happened - he pinched one of the many wands I had looted. Keep it!!
    Then I rezzed, and found my XP had gone down by about 60 K. Looking at the combat log, the final blow was landed by a skeleton - that's what actually killed me.
    So the only thing that peeves me - I can deal with the ransom thing, OR the XP loss if I die to a mob, but not both please!! My understanding is that if you die in PVP you do not suffer a XP loss.
    @Chris - is this a bug?
     
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    It's not a bug, you loose xp when you die, no matter if pvp ir pve.
    Err and you died while PvE through PvE.
    And you got 10% more xp because you were flagged.
    Where is the problem?

    If PvP has no death decay it's highly exploitable to never loose xp when dying.
     
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    PvP has had no decay for about 3 releases now, just because it can be done over and over and over in a short time. I am sure somone wil post notes but PvP has no decay
     
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    I believe his concern was about having both Decay and Ransom. Which I think I would agree with. If the skeleton got the kill the skeleton then there should be decay, if the player got the kill there should be ransom.
     
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    If you die in PvP (that is, if another player strikes the killing blow) then no death decay is applied. It's been in place a lot longer than three releases too. The rationale for it is that you do not gain experience for PvP so you also do not lose experience.

    [edit] Also, if the skeleton killed you then the other player shouldn't be able to loot you. Please file a bug report.
     
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    if the skeleton got the kill, then there is should be nothing to loot for the other PvPer and therfore no ransom.
    bad *facepalm*

    PvP is so bad in this Game - i doubt i will ever try it, no matter if i'm one day competetive or not.
    Let hope they fix all about this in the future - actually i dont care, it's eitherway to much grind to get ready for PvP.
     
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    True.
    I still prefer PVP in Eve Online, you can go into PVP with an day 1 Character in just any frigatte and noob fitting.
     
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    What exactly does it say in your chatlog regarding what "slayed" you ?
    Pull up your ChatLog and do a search for (your name) "has been slain by"
     
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    Copied from the chat log:

    [1/19/2018 2:40:08 PM] Pepi attacks Asclepius and hits, dealing 6 points of damage from Puncture.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:08 PM] Pepi attacks Asclepius and hits, dealing 47 points of damage from Puncture.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:08 PM] Hardened Elven Fighter attacks Asclepius and hits, dealing 4 points of damage from Rend.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:09 PM] Pepi attacks Asclepius and hits, dealing 4 points of damage from Ignite Weapon.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:09 PM] Asclepius utters the phrase Reno.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:09 PM] Pepi attacks Asclepius and hits, dealing 3 points of critical damage from Ignite.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:09 PM] Asclepius attacks Hardened Elven Fighter and hits, dealing 77 points of critical damage from Bow.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:10 PM] Pepi attacks Asclepius and hits, dealing 7 points of damage from Puncture.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:10 PM] Pepi attacks Asclepius and hits, dealing 8 points of damage from Puncture.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:10 PM] Asclepius is healed for 38 points of health (critical).
    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] Asclepius attacks Hardened Elven Archer and hits, dealing 30 points of damage from Bow.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] Pepi attacks Asclepius and hits, dealing 4 points of glancing damage due to armor.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] Pepi attacks Hardened Elven Fighter and hits, dealing 13 points of damage.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] Hardened Elven Fighter: (fighting) Your struggles are pointless.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] Pepi attacks Asclepius and hits, dealing 4 points of critical damage from Ignite Weapon.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] Pepi attacks Asclepius and hits, dealing 76 points of damage from Pull.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] Asclepius attacks Hardened Elven Archer and hits, dealing 63 points of critical damage from Bow.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] Hardened Elven Archer attacks Asclepius and hits, dealing 46 points of damage from Aimed Shot.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] Asclepius has been slain by Hardened Elven Archer's Aimed Shot!
    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] You have died at the hands of other outlanders. The Oracle has decided upon a Price for this conflict.

    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] An item (Lesser Wand) has been removed from your inventory as part of the Price.
    [1/19/2018 2:40:11 PM] An item (Bear Carcass) has been removed from your inventory as part of the Price.

    No grudge against Pepi at all - I was flagged and fair game. It was a chaotic melee, and at times I didn't know what I was shooting at! You could say that Pepi's last shot and the elven archer's shot happened simultaneously, BUT - the system recorded that I died at the hand of the elven archer. Therefore I should not have been ransomed. (Like I care about a bear carcass and lesser wand;))

    And I will log a bug report.
     
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    So you lost items and XP?
     
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    Yep. According to the chatlog I should have lost XP (and 60K is my current "penalty" for the first death of the day), but not items.
     
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