[Known]Weapon skills do not hit correct number of targets

Edit: realized I didn't use your template....

1. Title: Weapon skills do not hit expected number of targets
2. Reproduction Rate: 100%
3. Blocker? Partial
4. Details:

• Issue:
  • Weapon skills do not hit expected number of targets
• Impact:
  • Player is frustrated by perception of buggy combat, skills and items not working as expected.
• Version:
  • R37 build 524
  • Has been observed in earlier builds on this release

5. Steps to Reproduce:

• Action:
  • Use a melee weapon skill

• Expected result:
  • Unless explicitly stated in the tool tip, expect to hit up to the same number of mobs a normal attack would hit

• Obtained result:
  • Hit one target, not the number in weapon tool tip.

• Supporting documents/artifacts
  • See screen shots below

6.User Specs:

• Win 8.1
• i7-4820k
• 32 gb RAM (4 x8GB)
• Nvidia GeForce GTX 770
  • 10.18.13.6510

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Basic attack with Polearm hit 2 of 2 valid targets

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Polearm attack puncture only hit 1 of 2 valid targets

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Polearm attack push hit 2 of 2 valid targets

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Basic attack with a 1h mace hits 2 of 2 valid targets

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1 handed mace attack, break armor only hit 1 valid target

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2h great axe, basic melee attack hit 3 of 3

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Bludgeon skill crushing blow hit 1 of 3 valid targets with great axe 2h.

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Basic melee attack with rusty 1h sword ( thanks dead skeletons from earlier tests! ) hit 2 of 2 valid targets.

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Sword skill thrust hit 2 of 2 valid targets

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Sword skill double slash hits 2 of 2 targets

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Thanks for the most excellent report, @Merv DeGriff! I will submit this to the team for review

 

I was with his during his testing and would also like to add that only the following skills affects multiple targets with Polearm Combat:

Auto-Attack
Push
Spinning Attack

Everything else only hits 1 target

 

So I had PM'd Atos on Discord chat to see if it was intended function for skills to only hit one target. He replied with a negative.... so this looks like a bug, not bad documentation.

 

There seems to be an absence of proper communication on this one. Creating a ticket that will seek truth and clarity on the matter.
ID: 39271

 

@Sara Dreygon, you had talked with chris about this too?

 

I have not spoken with Chris about this however I did put in a bug a very, very long time ago that Attenwood replied to:

https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...s/riposte-only-seems-to-hit-one-target.52782/

 

I've spoken with Atos re. this issue, and have confirmed that the system works the following way:

As a rule of thumb, unless explicitly stated in the skill's tooltip, a skill will be applied to a single opponent regardless of the weapon used. This is for balancing purposes. For instance, if using "Coup de Grace" with a two-handed weapon, it should only hit one target, not three.

 

Thanks for talking in chat with me about it as well. This made me and a couple friends think that some weapons were broken.

So resolution time: Since unclear documentation is the issue the tool tips get updated. Might I suggest, perhaps having the target count noted in the skill even if it is a single target. This avoids a miss-understanding due to a lack of information on the skill.

Oh and as game folks go, you guys are good. Please, keep making the wonderful game more wonderful.