(NecroThread)Archery "adjustments"

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  1. Violet Ronso

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    If it is only Archery Spec you need to move around, 300 cotos for the obsidian item of unlearning, or simply unlearning slowly, gives you enough time to test it right now, and it is not too pricey to change back afterwards. For this release you would really benefit from at least trying, the release just happened!
     
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    Here's to hoping that what Chris means by archery "adjustments" will be to make the ranged skills worthwhile vs free-attack.
     
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    Just charged attacks with an envy bow
     
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    And with blades : Same stats, same buffs, same gear.

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    Just out of interest, what is your critical chance? How can you crit every shot?
     
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    I've rearranged my main combat deck, keeping only disabling shot and blinding shot for their debuffs.
     
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    Thats part of the issue, you shouldn't be able to, I can't with blades. And I'm only a hobby archer, Blades / Tactics Spec
     
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    I just did a little testing myself with a crafted high end bow with 14.2% damage and could not replicate these results. I was criting about once every 5-10 hits on a training dummy with charged shot with my highest hit being 767. Envy bow was a different story as I seemed to not only crit 40-50% of the time, but I was regularly hitting for 800+. Envy bow seems to be the main problem here with people being hit in PVP for huge amounts.
     
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    I see no problem here... #nonerfneeded
     
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    It's even worse, learning all of this right before it's going to be nerfed.
     
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    Not your fault. Chris should maybe prioritize these a bit higher by looking into these things when people mention them to him. We haven't had a balance pass for quite some time.
     
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    Can someone test this without using Envy bow? I'm no expert but I can't replicate these results with a high end crafted bow using charged shot. Envy bow seems to have an ungodly critical hit rate and seems to be the main problem.
     
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    Archers should be the #1 single target DPSer. Are you saying this should be nerfed? Boooooo!
     
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    ATM I have changed crit from ranged to tactics, 81 level spec. High end crafted bow and good gear. Average damage has gone up around 10%, and I have had one crit at 901. I have areas still to improve. Crit rate fairly consistent at 31%.
    I think that archers are still at a disadvantage against waves or multiple mobs - I can only take one at a time, and there is a lot of running involved. A fire mage can lay down a bonfire and watch the whole collection roast. So please no serious nerfs.
    (Ranged 140, Aimed shot, Draw strength 120, DEX 236 STR 201)
     
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    Not sure the anything would affect you.
     
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    Are you using charged shot? Even though some people here have said we want to nerf archery, this is not true, this is about charged shot only.
     
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    I went to East Sanctus Forest earlier and tried it out on the locals there. I was killing stuff way faster than I ever have just using auto-attack, blind and reward gear (Elder Elven Archer Armor, Founder Longbow, Bonesteel Crown, Heart of Sorrows and the Shroud).
     
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    I still suck at PVP - although I have just started the adventure. Maybe with time and experience I will get better
     
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    Charged shot, yes. Almost exclusively, makes a huge difference. Only skills I have are disabling and blinding shot, to apply debuts.
     
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