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Poison potion not scaling

Discussion in 'Combat, Skills, & Magic' started by LlamaQc, Sep 5, 2018.

  1. LlamaQc

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    Hi,

    Poison potion (normal one) does not scale with poison effectiveness. It stay at 3-7 dmg even with dual daggers (should be 6-14).

    Also, poison potion description (corpion, spider mainly) and website does not match.

    Thanks.
     
  2. enalNomad

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    Thanks!

    As designed, not a bug. Poison skill makes it last longer, not do more damage. Also, dual daggers does not increase poison damage.
    ">Increasing the Poison Weapon skill will increase the duration of applied poisons. Subterfuge Specialization grants a chance to not consume the potion on use."
     
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    @enalNomad Daggers(and other weapons) have "Increase poison effectiveness +X%" which should increase poison dmg
     
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    what website do you mean?
     
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    @enalNomad
    Daggers have 50% poison effectiveness on each, which double the poison power. Spears have 25%. If it was not the case, no one would be using poison at all.
    The poison I tested work (corpion, spider so far), but the normal poison, does not scale up. Clearly not working properly to me.
    The poison skill increase duration on the blade. Not on the target. Which is ok.

    I mean the website of Sotawiki, is it supported by portalarium or nay? If no, sorry^^

    Thanks!
     
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    the sotawiki website is not connected to portalarium in any way - it's user created
     
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    I think I know why it does not scale:
    Deadly poison do 3-8 (sooo deadly 1 more dmg than poison normal) Become 6-16 with dual dagger
    Poison normal do 3-7. (not scaling at all, nor stack on target)
     
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    I took my poison weapon skill up to 45 to see what would happen. I use a longsword and a shield. Duration held at 20 seconds, it didn't change. Is this a bug or must I use a dagger or spear to use this skill effectively?
     
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    There are two problems with poison. The first is that the damage is always shown on the active icon above left at the lowest number of the range of damage. The second is that the duration of the poison does NOT increase with skill gain. It is always at 20 seconds regardless of your skill. Regarding the first problem, this may be just the display. For the life of me I cannot determine what increased damage is occurring during combat. For now, I am assuming that the damage shown in the icon is simply a display issue. As far as the second issue, the duration never increases due to skill progression as it should. @enalNomad
     
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    So basically poison is a bust. I get one hit and one only. Not worth my time. They ought to scrap it.
     
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    I have 92 skill in poison and mine lasts 43 seconds.
     
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    you need to highlight the potion on your hotbar to see the proper stats
     
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    I get the info from the buff icons upper left corner. The countdown timer starts at 20 seconds for Corpion and Spider poison. I have not tested all the others. The timer is accurate, 20 seconds regardless of skill level (at least from 0 skill to 83). I still have not found a reliable way to measure increased damage for scorpion hits, but it appears to be set at 5. It may be more due to rng but I cannot confirm without some advice.
     
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    @enalNomad

    To help make sense of what the true issue being reported here is, I did some quick testing with various weapons and these are the results...

    All damage reported is from poison effects only.

    2 daggers (+100% Poison Effectiveness Bonus total):
    110 damage over 23 ticks with Poison Potion
    1455 damage over 46 hits with Poison Potion, Corpion

    1 dagger (+50% Poison Effectiveness Bonus total):
    119 damage over 23 ticks with Poison Potion
    1003 damage over 45 hits with Poison Potion, Corpion

    1 shortsword (+25% Poison Effectiveness Bonus total):
    129 damage over 26 ticks with Poison Potion
    899 damage over 45 hits with Poison Potion, Corpion

    1 longsword (+0% Poison Effectiveness Bonus total):
    103 damage over 21 ticks with Poison Potion
    684 damage over 46 hits with Poison Potion, Corpion


    From these results, we can see that the +% Poison Effectiveness Bonus is scaling the direct-damage hits of "Poison Potion, Corpion," but not scaling the damage-over-time ticks of "Poison Potion."
     
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