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[Referred to AskaDev] Lich skill only gives more HP nothing more for stats

Discussion in 'Combat, Skills & Magic' started by Xee, Jan 7, 2023.

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  1. Xee

    Xee Bug Hunter

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    01/07/2023 17:11
    Title: Lich skill only gives more HP nothing more for stats
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    Blocker? waste of points?
    Details: The lich skills has two things lists % effective as well Lich summon Power. The lich summon power increases HP and only hp. The effective % does nothing that I can see in any stats or dmg. There is a undead skill called death effectiveness which increases the pets over all dmg 3 dmg per point. I suspect that the effective % was the wrong stat used to increase lich pet. this is probably the same for all lich pets as they all seem to use that skill.
    Steps to Reproduce: put death effective skill up to 140 for testing. next take level 100 lich and look at stats. level it up and all you see is hp increase. dps seems only to be affected by the death effective ness skill that you took to 140 which is separate which means the % effective does nothing and the lich skill level is only takes lich power which gives it hp only.
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    To give a bit more info the lich's Summon Level only affects HP no matter how it comes, including food and offhand orb. ("Summon Lich Power" just adds levels to the lich, as it does with other summons. Other summons just have more stats that are affected by their level).

    I don't know if this is by design or not, I guess I just assumed it was since the lich is already incredibly powerful and death magic is intrinsically linked to HP in a way that no other school is. The summon effectiveness stat you mentioned is also unique to the death summons, so I figured it was just a way to give the tree more detail oriented summons. With all the skills and artifacts and 3 summons to choose from that was seemingly a priority with Death magic.
     
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    So what is summon effectiveness % is the question. well the Lich is pretty powerful, the Skeleton and Skeleton mage are way too weak in comparison at same levels. Adding more HP is only from summon power. it does not make the pet stronger or do any more damage , neither does the pet level. HP is only linked to near death which you only get with the chest gem which is for death combat skills only. it does not affect summon pet in any way. So what is summons effectiveness?? its not death effectiveness which gives pets more str/dmg. in all testing 100-150 it did not seem to boost any skills at all, nor any of the pet page stats. I

    Demon summon had the same issue back when Jump strength was linked to the pet instead of strength. this fixed its output a lot and brought it in line. Death is also the only class with summons that require both the lich skills to make it powerful as well all the summon skills in focus tree to get to where I am which is powerful but at 2.5x the cost of xp for not much gain per point.

    when you get up this high level and spending alot to test and look at the math in depth amazing the small things you find over time :)


    summon effectiveness % is to be death effectiveness % pretty sure.
     
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    @Xee I would recommend asking this using "AskADev" so @Chris can speak to this on a stream, etc.
     
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    I think this also happens with the Summon Skeleton skill. Also it affects Anapa's Favor and its associated artifact gem, making it practically useless.
     
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