Thief Ninja Nerf

Thief's have been ninja nerfed - R37 release date patch....again. A patch that is not listed in the updates.

If a thief steals from someone he mesmerizes, the thief get's busted and stunned for 30 seconds.

(This is such a BLATENT NERF, and I knew it from Day 1 R37. I was just so angry until today when I thought i would address it. The top thief's in the game stopped playing due to this. The dev team needs to seriously consider who they want to silently kick out of the game, because its working, real well.

So currently stealing is bull since R37

and not to mention we've been dealing with 4 months of stealth not working, and 4 months of people targeting us while we are invisible.

 

release 37 has a lot of bugs... maybe it's a bug... I would suggest reporting it...

 

As someone that has great affinity for thieves, I have to say that a 30 second stun makes perfect sense. If you're allowed to just run around without risk, then you're not really being challenged and it's not really a fair system for the people you're stealing from.

Have the thieves considered working as a team? Have they considered becoming more sophisticated than just walking up and relying on the mechanics to take things from other people? Where's the player skill?

I hope it's not a bug, I recommended long ago that the stun be more like 40 seconds.

 

*cough cough* except you can jump out of it * cough cough*

 

First off we do get penalized for stealing, when we fail. That busted system is for failed steals and yes we get stunned for 30 second.

No where in my post did i complain of that. I am complaining that a possible bug or ninja nerf was implemented in r37 that busts you 100% steal on any messed person.

Its hard to get the facts out when people post on a system they don't understand.

Cant jump outa it blight. wish we could.

 

Ok, I reread the OP.

So you're saying that when you mesmerize someone they are automatically catching you? Wouldn't they know they were mesmerized? I don't think mesmerizing someone is actually the way the stealing system is supposed to work.

If I don't understand what you're saying, then please take more time to explain it. It sounds like you're upset that you no longer have an instant "steal" method. I.E. you mesmerize and you can't get caught (stunned).

 

Definitely post a bug...especially...wait for it...if it's a bug.

 

Basically before the patch mess works like we all knew it. Now if a thief uses SAP which is a mess skill and Then tries to steal, they are Busted 100% of the time. Basically the mechanics of Mess linked to pick pocket have Silently changed.

 

Have you considered that the change comprised that the skills be leveled higher to not be caught?

 

Yah, but im 99 steal and 80 sap

 

I agree they should do a better job communicating changes. But realize that we're in development and we're essentially live testing. (So what this means is don't react too hard when things like this happen.)

I'd definitely post it as a bug since it's not listed in the patch notes as a change. But be prepared to hear that it's intended. The Sap skill is different than Mesmerize (from the moon tree) and I agree with you that you should be able to do that. Otherwise the skill doesn't have much use.

 

If its intended ill deal with it, but maybe theright thing to do is not allow stealing at all from messed people, so new thiefs get the point sooner than later.

And some notes on skills in game

 

Can you steal a 1000 stack of silver?

 

I have to agree. If my best option in game is to log out, the system is broken.

 

No sympathies from me sir ... keep your hands to yourself!

 

Ehm If someone mesmerize me, i will allways be aware that something strange is going on and i check my pockets.
If you want to be invisible, mesmerize and then steal and want this a success it's weird.
Pickpocketing need to be something what can be easy discovered and just very very high skilled thiefs that organize a distract or are really quiet and good should be have a near to 90% Chance of success.

 

Great idea Valor to add ninjas to SOTA! Just like the UO ones from Samurai Empire.

Or didn't read that wrong?

 

Have a question.

Pickpockets required flagging PvP right?
Need the victim also be flagged or is everybody safe if not flagged?
And if you're not flagged and someone steal from you you can attack him ?
Could that be used to attract someone to flag pvp to attack the thief and then be ganked by some robbers?

 

Pickpocket is a PvP act.
Both the thief and target must be PvP.

Please check out the Player Instructions in the game for details by clicking the top right (?).

 

Thanks, was all i want to know and it should be like this.

To me SotA is a game that provides options and no constraints.

If everything that can bother others is and stays an option everything is fine!!!