Release 21 Feedback Release 21 Feedback Mon, 07 Sep 2026 11:44:11 +0000 Mon, 07 Sep 2026 11:44:11 +0000 Shroud of the Avatar Forum https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?forums/release-21-feedback.378/ Tour guide quests....help me out here Thu, 24 Sep 2015 10:12:16 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/tour-guide-quests-help-me-out-here.37777/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/tour-guide-quests-help-me-out-here.37777/ invalid@example.com (0pi8) 0pi8
The Devs are giving away free collectables to players that are willing to explore the new areas - I get it. So what is the intended adventure of these tours? I see an experienced player, or one like duke violation that has not been wiped, being able to trudge their way though these. But a new player with skills just wiped? I think not...
Some of these areas are nearly impossible without help or......

Full map of...

Tour guide quests....help me out here]]> 20 Lets Talk about the Skill System Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:56:03 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/lets-talk-about-the-skill-system.37240/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/lets-talk-about-the-skill-system.37240/ invalid@example.com (Cryodacry) Cryodacry
Now i am not going to get into all the positives of the system as all of us from the days of UO know very well why we love it. I am going to get into why the current version is terribly flawed.

First problem would be the fact there is not a level cap / skill cap. This is going to make balancing content very difficult. Even...

Lets Talk about the Skill System]]> 30 Of wolves and spiders Wed, 23 Sep 2015 20:00:50 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/of-wolves-and-spiders.37900/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/of-wolves-and-spiders.37900/ invalid@example.com (Lord_Darkmoon) Lord_Darkmoon For example the wolves and spiders. Looking through the Unity store there are better looking models for wolves and spiders that can be found.

For example:

Wolf...

Of wolves and spiders]]> Runners run too much Wed, 23 Sep 2015 14:35:58 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/runners-run-too-much.37476/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/runners-run-too-much.37476/ invalid@example.com (Soulicide) Soulicide 16 Many people stopped playing Wed, 23 Sep 2015 04:31:54 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/many-people-stopped-playing.37063/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/many-people-stopped-playing.37063/ invalid@example.com (Edward Newgate) Edward Newgate After talking with a lot of guys and girls of cours, they all told me the same reason.
(as and edit: a lot of peapel thing i have this complains i mostly enjoy the game alot there are little things that bother me but hey you cant every thing right? :) )

First reason: Skill decay and the fact there is now a skill cap and how back then it was promised that we would have no hardcap at...

Many people stopped playing]]> 136 Why Do We Keeping Getting Freezes On Exp Gain and Skill Gains?? Tue, 22 Sep 2015 20:28:25 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/why-do-we-keeping-getting-freezes-on-exp-gain-and-skill-gains.37508/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/why-do-we-keeping-getting-freezes-on-exp-gain-and-skill-gains.37508/ invalid@example.com (Whiskiz) Whiskiz
So basically what's up with the hidden penalty we are receiving? Could you please tell us what it is? Is it from being in the same zone too long even going back and forth from it, or grinding on the same enemy types too long? does it last for a set...

Why Do We Keeping Getting Freezes On Exp Gain and Skill Gains??]]> 75 Lot Placement Tool Feature: Sample Homes! Tue, 22 Sep 2015 17:24:41 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/lot-placement-tool-feature-sample-homes.37846/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/lot-placement-tool-feature-sample-homes.37846/ invalid@example.com (Aartemis) Aartemis
I am asking that the Lot Placement/Marker Gump (where you can set who can claim the lot) also have the choice to place a sample home on the lot. Using the existing arrow slider for the house chooser would be perfect. The sample house can erase if the lot is adjusted, and...

Lot Placement Tool Feature: Sample Homes!]]> Lets Talk about Reagents for Magic Tue, 22 Sep 2015 05:31:23 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/lets-talk-about-reagents-for-magic.36625/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/lets-talk-about-reagents-for-magic.36625/ invalid@example.com (Cryodacry) Cryodacry @Chris,

The magic system with reagents need a bit of an update. I would like to propose the following system.

As of right now, as you know, Spells have a fizzle % chance. I think this is a great concept and a wonderful way to implement a balance between armors. I would like to take this a step further. In addition i would also like to comment that the Price of reagents is set at a perfect place if you implement the following system.

Spells when they are casted are...

Lets Talk about Reagents for Magic]]> 21 4Bear strikes again! Phoenix down! Mon, 21 Sep 2015 22:58:37 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/4bear-strikes-again-phoenix-down.37803/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/4bear-strikes-again-phoenix-down.37803/ invalid@example.com (Athanil) Athanil
After some gruesome trials we've finally managed to beat the nemisis of r21, Riel Firefeather!

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As you can see we've had to trick it so it stayed in one spot. We did this by luring it to the cliff here and then blasting it with gusts until it was stuck. All that was left then was to kill it, which was easier said then done since it still packs quite the punch.

After finally getting it down to...

4Bear strikes again! Phoenix down!]]> 8 Prism (public vendor in Desolis) is hidden away Mon, 21 Sep 2015 14:56:10 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/prism-public-vendor-in-desolis-is-hidden-away.37717/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/prism-public-vendor-in-desolis-is-hidden-away.37717/ invalid@example.com (Guido DeVille) Guido DeVille
[​IMG]]]> 1 Please bring back the leather helms like what the guards wear Sun, 20 Sep 2015 10:02:53 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/please-bring-back-the-leather-helms-like-what-the-guards-wear.37451/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/please-bring-back-the-leather-helms-like-what-the-guards-wear.37451/ invalid@example.com (Raven Swiftbow) Raven Swiftbow
So please bring back the look that they had before.

And while we're at it....

We used to have really nice cloth helms - I think Ravicus might have a good screenshot of one, if I recall (I think he was using it for a sig for a time). [Edit! I see that it is Razimus, not Ravicus, who still has the image of what...

Please bring back the leather helms like what the guards wear]]> 35 Release 21 feedback (and some ideas) Sun, 20 Sep 2015 05:02:57 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/release-21-feedback-and-some-ideas.37750/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/release-21-feedback-and-some-ideas.37750/ invalid@example.com (Hardin Steele) Hardin Steele
Combat

-Combat Skills—The skill “tiers” (for lack of a better term) are thin. Certainly there should be more skills for each tree and each tree should have more branches. The weapon classes and armor classes seem like they should be broken down a little more (under “Blades”, the next tier might be...

Release 21 feedback (and some ideas)]]> 2 Guesswork - not fun Sat, 19 Sep 2015 21:04:04 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/guesswork-not-fun.37514/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/guesswork-not-fun.37514/ invalid@example.com (Pleione) Pleione
Likewise, not understanding if I should build +2 Int armor or +0.2 Magic Damage armor is silly - it takes way too much effort to craft a piece of armor to not understand the basics of what it will do. Using this example, presumably +2 Int will boost my Focus, Focus regen, and spell damage,...

Guesswork - not fun]]> 42 Manually testing hit chance. Fri, 18 Sep 2015 22:44:49 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/manually-testing-hit-chance.37588/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/manually-testing-hit-chance.37588/ invalid@example.com (KuBaTRiZeS) KuBaTRiZeS Manually testing hit chance.]]> 6 Probably Shouldn't Resurrect with 100% HP and Focus Fri, 18 Sep 2015 21:42:00 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/probably-shouldnt-resurrect-with-100-hp-and-focus.37420/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/probably-shouldnt-resurrect-with-100-hp-and-focus.37420/ invalid@example.com (Fikule) Fikule
Also, if monsters kill someone and there are no other targets around, maybe they should instantly reset?

Oh, and possibly limit each player to leaving behind one set of bones. It got... cluttered, to say the least.

Maybe a small resurrection timer for very frequent deaths?]]> 10 What should NPC's sell? Fri, 18 Sep 2015 20:57:44 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/what-should-npcs-sell.36932/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/what-should-npcs-sell.36932/ invalid@example.com (Drocis the Devious) Drocis the Devious
Arrows are a perfect example. Currently in Owl's head, an arrow costs 2 gold. For a player to make an arrow it costs significantly more than that. So if this continues at launch, no player will...

What should NPC's sell?]]> 45 Adam Smith in New Britannia Fri, 18 Sep 2015 20:19:37 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/adam-smith-in-new-britannia.36964/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/adam-smith-in-new-britannia.36964/ invalid@example.com (Drocis the Devious) Drocis the Devious Adam Smith in New Britannia
by Baron Drocis Fondorlatos

Adam Smith's, The Wealth of Nations was first published on Earth in 1776. Here Smith argued that tariffs created inefficient economies that produced high inflation over long periods of time. It's my belief that would Adam Smith visit New Britannia today, he would see the same economic problems.

Tariffs are defined as taxes imposed on goods or services, usually imports or exports. But for our purposes, we'll just call...

Adam Smith in New Britannia]]> 24 Archery Question Fri, 18 Sep 2015 15:53:40 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/archery-question.36135/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/archery-question.36135/ invalid@example.com (Chatele) Chatele
Archery Question]]> 55 Stuck at level 20 in leather armor Fri, 18 Sep 2015 03:30:03 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/stuck-at-level-20-in-leather-armor.37610/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/stuck-at-level-20-in-leather-armor.37610/ invalid@example.com (Hardin Steele) Hardin Steele
Using this kit I could not get to level 21, period. There was absolutely no way I could kill a timber wolf, or even damage a...

Stuck at level 20 in leather armor]]> 4 Frustrated by mining / lumberjacking this release Thu, 17 Sep 2015 04:35:14 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/frustrated-by-mining-lumberjacking-this-release.37426/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/frustrated-by-mining-lumberjacking-this-release.37426/ invalid@example.com (Helseth) Helseth
It's not just the skill system (which I'm generally enjoying and will love once balance issues are fixed *cough*)

It seems like the accessibility of resources is off. Almost every tree or mining node I've found has had some mobs next to them so I have to fight every time I mine - which is annoying since I'm an archer and am mining/lumberjacking to make the arrows I need to fight.

When I've found a node without mobs it seems to be a...

Frustrated by mining / lumberjacking this release]]> 21 Lets Talk about Armor Wed, 16 Sep 2015 21:46:52 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/lets-talk-about-armor.36627/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/lets-talk-about-armor.36627/ invalid@example.com (Cryodacry) Cryodacry @Chris,

I believe i have figured out what every stat does with armor. That being said there needs to be some drastic revamps to how armor currently works as the system is too exploitable. Believe you me i am going to be hurt the most by this balance pass =)

Please correct me if i am wrong on these Chris.

Damage Resistance (%DR) = This is a stat that decreases your damage you take from all sources. This stat ends up being a % Damage reduction.

Damage Absorption...

Lets Talk about Armor]]> 13 Tour Guide - Highwayman Hat Walkthrough Wed, 16 Sep 2015 03:10:30 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/tour-guide-highwayman-hat-walkthrough.36149/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/tour-guide-highwayman-hat-walkthrough.36149/ invalid@example.com (E n v y V I) E n v y V I
]]> 27 Will Player Run Towns, POT get a Fauna or stuff to gather? based on location Tue, 15 Sep 2015 18:24:36 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/will-player-run-towns-pot-get-a-fauna-or-stuff-to-gather-based-on-location.37542/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/will-player-run-towns-pot-get-a-fauna-or-stuff-to-gather-based-on-location.37542/ invalid@example.com (Myrcello) Myrcello
I thought - would be nice if i could feel the advantage of choosing this place also in regards to what supplies are around you.

So some animals that fit to the areas - like monkeys , fish in the water, birds, snakes , crocodiles i can kill.


Or is the general idea to keep Player Run Towns and Player Towns totally empty of animals, supplies we can gather ?

Just curious.


Kind regars]]> 2 Free attack and Global Cooldown. Tue, 15 Sep 2015 16:00:59 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/free-attack-and-global-cooldown.37534/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/free-attack-and-global-cooldown.37534/ invalid@example.com (KuBaTRiZeS) KuBaTRiZeS
The main reason not to use auto attack in my opinion is that charging it takes too much time, and you could use a couple of...

Free attack and Global Cooldown.]]> 1 ? What increases crafting "pool" Tue, 15 Sep 2015 12:23:04 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/what-increases-crafting-pool.37501/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/what-increases-crafting-pool.37501/ invalid@example.com (Darnah Fyre) Darnah Fyre
*cries*

All hints appreciated!]]> 8 POT deco items Mon, 14 Sep 2015 17:52:57 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/pot-deco-items.37450/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/pot-deco-items.37450/ invalid@example.com (Mal Hari) Mal Hari
items would be deco only (you couldn't use the chest set) this would allow for filling in areas of town.

if you have a unused corner you could put 6-7 assorted tents to make it look busy. or other things.

and for fill in the areas of the towns there should be a way for large scale community crafting to...

POT deco items]]> 2 R 21 General Feedback Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:59:27 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/r-21-general-feedback.37444/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/r-21-general-feedback.37444/ invalid@example.com (Kosomok) Kosomok
1) Combat:
Combat at the start is, IMO, too difficult. The difficulty arises from the lack of focus. The focus pool for new characters is too low and the out of combat regen rates for focus and health are too low.

The lack of focus leads to a reliance on auto-attacking, which I do not find to be fun. Auto-attacking minimizes my interaction as a player--and I play in order to DO things, not to watch my avatar auto-attack.

Low...​

R 21 General Feedback]]> 10 Taming suggestions Mon, 14 Sep 2015 14:08:32 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/taming-suggestions.37457/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/taming-suggestions.37457/ invalid@example.com (waltemus) waltemus
Seen
1. It takes a taming collar for each -attempt- to tame a creature instead of every success.
2. There is no successful taming indicator other than the target disappears.
3. There is no failure to tame indicator other than the target does not disappear.
4. You can only have one tame at a time and if you tame another the first is lost.
5. You only need one summoning whistle to repeatedly call your tame.
6. The...

Taming suggestions]]> 2 Kvow's Archery Journey (or sell everything and buy arrows) Mon, 14 Sep 2015 10:47:40 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/kvows-archery-journey-or-sell-everything-and-buy-arrows.36470/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/kvows-archery-journey-or-sell-everything-and-buy-arrows.36470/ invalid@example.com (Waxillium) Waxillium Round 1 (500 arrows or 1000 gp)

Location:
North Valeway.

Skill Gain:
Ranged Combat +4(14)
Aimed Shot +13 (13)
Disabling Shot +8 (8)
Ammo Scavenger of +3 (3)

Loot:
-1000 +260 (Net loss 740)

Notes:
Aimed shot goes up every shot as does disabling shot. Ranged combat only goes up if you hit. Ammo scavenger goes up with all archery skills. Deer in owls head give no skill gain...

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Round 2 (500 arrows or...

Kvow's Archery Journey (or sell everything and buy arrows)]]> 51 Leveling too easy? Sun, 13 Sep 2015 22:55:44 +0000 https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/leveling-too-easy.37226/ https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/leveling-too-easy.37226/ invalid@example.com (Sara Dreygon) Sara Dreygon @Chris some information on leveling skills, today for four hours I went from 92 polearms to 112 polearms which I think this might be too fast in my opinion. I don't think experience pool that I had left over from R20 had much to do with it either because even if my pool was completely out, I was killing many, many creatures with my guild's help so I shouldn't have run out of XP, correct? (it's not like I was hitting a gustball)

Also, leveling is MUCH...

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