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Kvow's Archery Journey (or sell everything and buy arrows)

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  1. Waxillium

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    Round 1 (500 arrows or 1000 gp)

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    North Valeway.

    Skill Gain:

    Ranged Combat +4(14)
    Aimed Shot +13 (13)
    Disabling Shot +8 (8)
    Ammo Scavenger of +3 (3)

    Loot:
    -1000 +260 (Net loss 740)

    Notes:
    Aimed shot goes up every shot as does disabling shot. Ranged combat only goes up if you hit. Ammo scavenger goes up with all archery skills. Deer in owls head give no skill gain...

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    Round 2 (500 arrows or 1000gp)
    1000 arrows or 2000gp

    Location:
    North Valeway in Single Player hunting only skeletons to pay my debts.

    Skill Gain:
    Ranged Combat +3 (17)
    Aimed Shot +7 (20)
    Disabling shot +5 (13)
    Ammo Scavenger +3 (6)

    Loot:
    1000gp in corpse wax, residue and swords to pay for that bunch of arrows.

    Notes:
    I have a feeling that North Valeway skeletons don't raise Ranged Combat anymore. I'll go find a new location. (I was wrong, I just had too many skills I was trying to level).
     
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  2. Browncoat Jayson

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    For practicing, I don't carry arrows at all and just use skills. Aimed and Disabling until you get them to 10, then add in Piercing and Blinding. Only been working on skills a couple hours and at Ranged Combat 25, Aimed Shot 26, Disabling Shot 11, Piercing Shot 10, Blinding Shot 12, Ammo Scavenger 8.
     
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    Thanks! I'm sure that helps for now. I'd hope that's not possible in the future (using a skill for skill gain without the ammo). I'm just doing this for the new player experience of it.

    Round 3 (1000 arrows or 2000gp)
    Total of 2000 arrows and 4000gp

    Location:
    Moved to Wynton's Folly. There are Large Skeletons at the perimeter of the skeleton encampment that don't respawn and are the next step up from North & South Valeway and Kingsroad.

    Skill Gain:
    Ranged Combat +7 (24)
    Aimed shot +13 (33)
    Disabling Shot +9 (19)
    Ammo Scavenger +5 (11)

    Loot: Trial an error finding this spot meant I did not replace my 500 arrows in new loot. Only made back about 600gp (-400)

    Notes:
    Wynton's was too far to walk because I can't carry enough.

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    Round 4 (1000 arrows or 2000gp)
    Total of 3000 arrows and 6000gp

    Location:
    Moved to Ruined Keep with a guildy

    Skill Gain:
    Ranged Combat +2 (26)
    Aimed Shot +6 (39)
    Disabling Shot +3 (22)
    Ammo Scavenger +2 (13)
    Eagle Eye +6 (6)

    Loot:
    -2000 in arrows and +1377 in bows/reside/wax (-623)... now selling off all unnecessary items.

    Notes:
    Despite being an Archer and fighting Archers there are no arrows to be looted??
    Can't continue to play with a guildy as loot splitting means I cant afford arrows :(
     
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    Round 5 (1000 arrows or 2000gp)
    Total 4000 arrows and 8000 gp

    Location:
    North and South Valeway and Kingsroad in single player.

    Skill Gain:
    Ranged Combat +5 (31)
    Aimed Shot +4 (43)
    Disabling Shot ~ Locked for now
    Ammo Scavenger ~ Locked for now
    Eagle Eye ~ Locked for now

    Loot:
    Making about
    2000gp per 500 arrows now in residue, wax, ash, pearls, nightshade and rusty swords.

    Notes:
    4 arrows per kill makes it way more cost effective. To bad I'm level locked fighting weak skeletons.

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    Round 6 (1000 arrows for 420gp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Make your own.
    Total 5000 arrows and 8420gp

    Location:
    North Valeway and Kingsroad

    Skill Gain:

    Ranged Combat +6! (37)
    Aimed Shot +6! (49)
    Disabling Shot ~ Locked for now
    Ammo Scavenger ~ Locked for now
    Eagle Eye ~ Locked for now

    Loot:
    Mining 12 Ore
    Harvesting 8 trees
    Salvaging 144 in metal scraps
    The rest of the reagents and extras get sold.

    + a few thousand in loot ;)

    Note:
    Seriously, Make your own arrows!
     
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    Round 7 (2000 arrows - Self made for 840?)
    Total 7000 arrows and 9260gp


    Location:
    Ruined Keep - Archer vs Archer. About 10-15 arrows per time they die...

    Skill Gain:
    Ranged Combat +2 (39)
    Aimed Shot +7 (56)
    Disabling Shot +2 (24)
    Ammo Scavenger +2 (15)
    Eagle Eye +2 (9)

    Swiftness (42)
    Acrobatics (45)

    Death Touch (3)
    Death Mastery (1)

    Strength of Earth (3)
    Attunement of Earth (1)

    Healing Touch (22)
    Purify (5)
    Life Power (6)

    Ice Arrow (16)
    Douse (4)
    Shield of Ice (7)

    Heightened Awareness (15) Locked
    Train Intelligence (10) Locked
    Inner Calm (10)
    Follow Through (2)

    Healthy (13) Locked
    Train Dexterity (25) Locked
    Train Strength (16)
    Heavy Lifter (16)

    Note:
    Completely unlocked all the skills again because I wanted to see some gains and these skeleton archers gave 300 exp before while North Valeway Skeletons gave 53 exp per. No good way for new people to know this.
     
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    These are great and important observations.

    Arrows need to cost 0.2 gold, not 2.0 gold.
     
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    Arrows are 2 gold each, unless you found some super secret arrow vendor that sells them for half price.
     
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    *Catchy Jingle plays*

    Hello fellow citizens of Novia! I'm Thorgeirr Skjaldbakur, owner & chief carpenter at Skjaldbakur Home Furnishings.

    I am pleased to let you know that Skjaldbakur Home Furnishings is now selling Arrows @ 500 for 500G. That's half off the blacksmith shop's price. If I run out just leave a note in the chest on the counter with how many you want to buy. We'll try to get back to you in a timely manner.

    While there please check out our fine selection of hand crafted furniture. Don't see what you want/need just place an order in the chest and we'll see what can be arranged

    We are located In Owl's Head. From the Entrance Take the First Road Right (Across From the Moongate Path). We Are the Last Building on the Right with the hedge archway entrance and the ornate streetlamps out front.

    *Catchy Jingle plays again*
     
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    Maybe I'm dense (or just new, since I started in R20), but in other (not "pre-alpha") RPGs, skeletons aren't exactly the best archery targets. They're, you know, sort of mostly air inside, and don't have anything to bleed out from puncture wounds, or internal organs to get damaged.

    Now maybe SotA doesn't have such a thing implemented yet, but I'm surprised if they wouldn't eventually plan to make skeletons more resistant to archery attacks than say, rabbits and wolves. (And I am not going to suggest you play around with spiders right now since we all know how dangerous they became in R21, but if you could attack them from a distance, maybe their main danger of poison couldn't reach you.)
     
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    You my friend are out of stock!

    I don't think so (You being dense). Skeletons are some of the best mob profit. Perhaps they could give us sonic and impact arrows to help solve this lack of realism. Bigger issue I feel is that there are no arrows on loot. They went around this by making you shoot less arrows with ammo scavenger.
     
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    What is the purpose of 'Locking' and 'Unlocking' Skills?
     
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    You can make 1200 arrows for 480 in feathers, 8 chemicals and 12 coal.

    1) Mill 8 Trees down into 6 Timber. Mill those timber down into 12 Boards.
    2) Salvage Rusty Swords till you have 144 metal scraps.
    3) Make 12 ingots using the 12 scraps plus an ore recipe.
    4) Make 12 arrowheads using those ingots.
    5) Make 12x100 arrows with your boards and arrowheads.

    If you need help with the recipes just wisper me or ask here.

    That being said... I just bought out 5000 arrows from Thorgeirr Skjaldbakur.
    (I like to shoot more than craft apparently)
     
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    You spread your exp gain to all skills unlocked in some crazy math.
    Give it a try! If you only have one of two unlocked they gain faster it seems.
     
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    Hmm..definitely need to check that out :rolleyes: I am burning through arrows like crazy - even with ammo scavenger skill - trying to improve my archery skills :eek: (Silly me, I am trying to level them all up at roughly the same rate, so now they are in the 30's. Really hard to resist the temptation to use Aimed shot every time :p)

    Btw, still hard to hit much at less than point blank range :eek: and do serious damage :( Ranged and eagle eye skills leveling up very slowly...:confused:
     
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    Round 8 (1500 arrows - Made by Thorgeirr Skjaldbakurr for 1500gp)
    Total 8500 arrows and 10760gp


    Location:
    Ruined Keep - Archer vs Archer. About 10 arrows approx. per time they die...

    Skill Gain:
    Ranged Combat +2 (41)
    Aimed Shot +7 (63)
    Disabling Shot +4 (28)
    Ammo Scavenger +3 (18)
    Eagle Eye +6 (15)
    Range +7 (7)

    Swiftness +6 (48)
    Acrobatics +10 (55)

    Tap Soul (11)
    Death Touch +6 (9)
    Death Mastery +2 (3)

    Strength of Earth +10 (13)
    Attunement of Earth +23 (24)
    Sympathy of Stone +15 (15)

    Healing Touch +7 (29)
    Purify +3 (8)
    Life Power +2 (8)

    Ice Arrow +5 (21)
    Douse +3 (7)
    Shield of Ice +5 (12)

    Heightened Awareness (15) Locked
    Train Intelligence (10)
    Inner Calm +8 (18)
    Follow Through +12 (14)

    Healthy (13) Locked
    Train Dexterity +1 (26)
    Train Strength +5 (21)
    Heavy Lifter (20) Locked

    Total +152!

    Note:
    Currently level 28. These skeles die pretty easy but I'm no tank and can't ignore the damage output of 2 at a time.
     
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    Yes salvaging has made managing the "arrow economy" more or less tolerable :cool:

    It might be just my imagination or coincidence but I seem to get a rather decent amount of scrap from rusty hammers (not kobold hammers though, apparently the metal from them is not recyclable :p). Also two-handed swords are very good for scrapping if one can handle the soon-to-be-former-owner (large skeletons carry them and are relatively easy).
     
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    Round 9 (1500 arrows - Made by Thorgeirr Skjaldbakurr for 1500gp)
    Total 10000 arrows and 12250gp


    Location:
    Ruined Keep - Archer vs Archer. About 10 arrows approx. per time they die...

    Skill Gain:
    Ranged Combat +2 (41)
    Aimed Shot +3(66)
    Disabling Shot +2 (30)
    Ammo Scavenger +2 (20)
    Eagle Eye +1 (16)
    Range +3 (10)
    Draw Strength (0)

    Swiftness +2 (50)
    Acrobatics +4 (59)

    Tap Soul (11)
    Death Touch +3 (12)
    Death Mastery (3)

    Strength of Earth +4 (17)
    Attunement of Earth +5 (29)
    Sympathy of Stone +8 (23)

    Healing Touch +3 (32)
    Purify (8)
    Life Power +2 (10)

    Ice Arrow +4 (25)
    Douse (7)
    Shield of Ice +2 (14)

    Heightened Awareness (15) Locked
    Train Intelligence +3 (13)
    Inner Calm +2 (20)
    Follow Through +4 (18)

    Healthy (13) Locked
    Train Dexterity +1 (27)
    Train Strength +2 (23)
    Heavy Lifter (20) Locked

    Total +62 for 1500 arrows.

    Note:
    Bought a Crafted bow. Don't really see all the bonuses in play but you gotta spend money somewhere.
     
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    Sounds sort of perfect.

    If crafters made 1,000 arrows and sold them for 1,000 gold I imagine a lot of people would prefer to buy them than make their own or purchase from a vendor.

    They could just do with making it so crafters can get more bulk for their buck so to speak as they gain skill.
     
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    Its a sweet relationship!

    Trying out archery macroing while I clean my house. I just figured out some lame thing to do if you have an exp pool to burn.

    Scored +30 in skills macroing. Booooooo.
     
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    any tips for raising ranged combat Kvow? Mine seems to be going really slowly.

    Am i correct in assuming it doesn't raise of autoattack, and only skill usage? So therefore, using as many archery related abilities is the best thing to do in order to raise the tree?

    Boy is this skill-set expensive to use!
     
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