Well, I do remember that Portalarium did say that they may have a Kickstarter for E2, but a much scaled down one. And yes they may not have that either and go a whole different route. So I can tell you right now, I am not purchasing a damn thing going forward unless they can come up with a better compromise and substitution. And if you are not. Duke or LOTM, then unless you have some creative idea of a good substitution, then I would keep your comments to yourself. This thread doesn’t concern you.