Deathmage God Mode

People take it peronally when thier bread and butter is challanged, im sure chirs has the numbers and will do whats right for the game. Or we can all roll death mage, might be easier to ballance if thetr was only 1 build.


For the record im fine if they leave it just raise the rest up to be compeditive.

Arrow with life leech- yum

 

Quite agree, gone way off the OP. Should probably be locked because its doubtful there is anything to be added.

 

I think Chris is doing a good job balancing gameplay. While I don't like some of his changes, I understand why they're needed, so I don't complain too loudly.

 

That sounds like sound design. I can respect making changes for the better of the game or to make things fair, I don't have to agree with it.

(and I will show my personal bias) what I I DONT like is when things are nerfed because of some "vision" issue like how a skill works in PVP when the change just flat ruins it in PVE or because at a certain skill/character level it lets people solo group content or because of envy from other players.

 

The way I tackle this future nerf issue is to train on everything up to 60, then keep an eye on what's the most bang for bucks and very least chance to get nerf, then go with that path.

 

First off, attunement difference between the attacker and target affects damage. If a death mage attacks another death mage they'll do less damage than of they attack someone with no attunement on death magic. If your healing attunement is high you'll get healed by more from others. Check out Chris' breakdown of this in the tech talks he does with Violation.

I consider myself one of the top melee players in the game. I run quite often with who I believe is the best current healer in the game. 2 on 1 against anyone except a death mage is about how you would expect the fight to go... against a death mage... *sigh* even 2 on 1 it's tough as these aren't even the top death mages. One on one against them... good luck. Probably the top 30 death mages could kill me more than half the time. The top death mages I probably couldn't even kill 10% of the time. I can keep doing damage but they keep doing damage and death-healing. They should either balance death magic some or buff me and I'm powerful enough already... so...

 

I am not the top archer but im up there. I am shocked and baffled at the dps ive seen a cpl well known deathmages toss out.

Adl 99 mostly in bows and deep in the tree. 3x gm carp so u know im not shooting a junk bow gamblers ring shooting sash 120 dex.

Baffled

 

Sounds like long term those artifacts will be salvageable and some of the power of those artifacts might be rolled back into the crafting system? That would create more demand for the artifacts too. There is a counter to death mages in PvP btw I just haven't trained the correct skills yet.

Also I was going to reply to @Stundorn 's post earlier regarding dazzling rays and moon beams. DR does target more mobs but has a limited range.. point blank AoE vs moon beams which is a targeted AoE. Not sure what moon beam's skill looks like at high levels.. and I've wondered if really high moon attunement allows you to get beyond the 3 target limit? according to moon beam's at lvl 40 with 25 attunement, the radius stays at 3 and the target range stays at 20 but not sure if the tooltip is accurate.

Also there's sap which is much more difficult to use but I guess it's advantage would be no attunement associated with the skill so there's less of a chance it will be resisted? haven't seen what sap looks like at high levels but the success chance to seems to start out pretty low.

 

Never happened 120 in rapid fire, bow built for rapid fire shooters sash and a whole bunch of other stuff if I ever saw a 70 id freek out 60 pt crits make me weep like a little girl.

116 is aimed shot and 320 is a pretty serious crit and only seen rarley with stacking and elevation..

 

Play the bow I dare ya wont think that long.

How about instead of nerfing anything they just ballance stuff better?

 

Now that we're 3 years and running, shouldn't we be done with this continuous nerfing/un-nerfing of skills? Of course there must to be balancing in the game, I'm just surprised we haven't moved past the balancing stage at this point. Very frustrating for those of us who went live last summer, after mucho tweaking.

 

Just finished full suit of Obsidian plate with 2/2 enchants and death resist gems. This will be good for testing what is and what isnt. Just need to find a death mage

 

Make other schools better.
The problem with SotA is the lack of a concept. Just like for guild war, we have a combat system... but there is no concept behind it. Combos are missing...
They even just changed the draw mechanics a release ago.

It makes no sense after all.
At least death comes with disadvantages. Before it wad earth without any drawback. Nerfing corpse explosion is necessary though as using corpses multiple times should not be possible... but thats things were you can see how basic the design still is.

The way it is designed right now and with early access you have to make a new build every release anyhow. Else you will just suck. You have to play what works currently, not what you want your char to be.

The skill and combat system is totally messed up. Slows overwrite each other, sometimes they also do that with dots. Single spells cancel each other out. Wand enchantments bonuses are not consistent..why?

The problem lies in the game system itself.. not in a single magic tree.

 

Make other schools better.
The problem with SotA is the lack of a concept. Just like for guild war, we have a combat system... but there is no concept behind it. Combos are missing...
They even just changed the draw mechanics a release ago.

It makes no sense after all.
At least death comes with disadvantages. Before it wad earth without any drawback. Nerfing corpse explosion is necessary though as using corpses multiple times should not be possible... but thats things were you can see how basic the design still is.

The way it is designed right now and with early access you have to make a new build every release anyhow. Else you will just suck. You have to play what works currently, not what you want your char to be.

The skill and combat system is totally messed up. Slows overwrite each other, sometimes they also do that with dots. Single spells cancel each other out. Wand enchantments bonuses are not consistent..why?

The problem lies in the game system itself.. not in a single magic tree.

 

I read all these same arguments about air magic god mode 6 months ago. Air magic has now been nerfed to the point where its barely usable and just keeps on getting nerfed. I fully expect death magic to be next. Don't think death is overpowred, people just need to learn to defend against it? Well, I didn't think air was overpowered with the same reasoning. Still got nerfed, made ridiculously expensive compared to every other school to play, focus cost increased, damage got reduced, stun chance got reduced, etc. etc. I fully believe that instead of completely diminishing a powerful skill, additional ways to defend against it should be added, perhaps expanding other schools in the process. That would be a much more palatable solution for all involved.

 

Fixed that for you.