Starting Paths *spoilers*

Answers to questions:

Love + Love = Ranger (focus on Ranged, Light Armor and DEX)
Truth + Truth = Mage (focus on Fire Magic and INT)
Courage + Courage = Fighter (Focus on Blades, Heavy Armor, and STR)

I think we should expand/change to something this...(may need some tweaks but the concept is sound)

Love + Love + Love = Duelist (Tactics, Light Armor and DEX)
Love + Love + Truth = Rogue (Subterfuge, Moon Magic and DEX)
Love + Love + Courage = Ranger (Ranged, Taming and DEX)
Truth + Truth + Truth = Mage (Sun Magic, Focus and INT)
Truth + Truth + Courage = Cleric (Life Magic, Bludgeon and INT)
Truth + Truth + Love = Necromancer (Death Magic, Fire Magic and INT)
Courage + Courage + Courage = Fighter (Blades, Light Armor and STR)
Courage + Courage + Truth = Knight (Shield, Heavy Armor and STR)
Courage + Courage + Love = Barbarian (Polearm, Tactics and STR)

@Lum, please consider. I think it's a good compromise that would make a lot of people happier.

 

Sounds like a fantastic change. Honestly, been considering taking truth path next wipe as a melee to reduce wasted points.

 

i've really grown to despise fire magic, forcing it down my throat has forced me to abandon the tree completelly

 

It is not my favorite, but I'll need at least some of it to get the fire resist skill. Weapon skills on the other hand give nothing if you don't use it.

 

Like it personally.It would make the game a lot more varied. How easy it would be to do not sure.

 

It ends up being pretty moot either way.
The starter skills at 20 amount to a few dead elder wolves in exp.

 

Yes, that's true.

But for people like me that hate the current starting skills, these are wasted points that we'll never get back. That's why this matters to a lot of people. (even if the points are relatively small)

And, seriously as a solo player that doesn't pick the "normal" plate armor, sun magic, blades, healing spells that everyone else uses, Elder Wolves are not something I get to fight until I'm about level 40.

 

I like the novelty of that approach moreso than what we have now.

However, it really only works for those in the know who created characters before and/or have studied character creation on web sites up front.

Else a new player to SOTA, with no experience with the game, will be even more confused by an undesirable result from nine choices than they are from the three we have now. Just imagine it. If I am someone who never played before, I randomly get skill I don't like, then have to go figure out nine combos instead of just three? Nothing has improved on that front for the uninitiated.

Maybe just going with the virtues instead of the three principles would make it more clear. But I don't think this episode is meant to focus on those as much.

 

Part of it for me is reducing the ratio of glyphs to slots for me. Low level skills are a pain as they take up a slot but can't be stacked much to consolidate.

 

problem is with 3 separate options you also have the wild card
love truth courage option

 

That could be Chaos Magic.

Actually I thought of that. I think that can be solved by making the questions not give you a chance to do that.

Do you pick Love or Courage? Love.
Do you pick Truth or Courage? Courage.
Do you pick Love or Courage? Ha ha, you can't get Love, Courage, and Truth!

 

Agreed there would need to be a noticable difference for each one through the game for it to work.

 

I think it is silly to tie truth/courage/love with certain skill trees. If anything the intro should ask directly whether you prefer magic/ranged/weapons and of so ,which weapons or which tree of magic. No one will on first play through figure out they have to prefer certain virtue to get the correct starting bonus. It is unrelated.

 

While I DO agree with the OP regarding more variations on the current "theme" of Love/Courage/Truth, I am still trying to wrap my head around "somehow" associating a combination of the three with skill trees.

I just think that it makes ZERO sense to somehow associate a skill tree with Love or Courage or Truth.

Love will always be my favorite - but I don't choose it because the resultant skill tree doesn't suit me - so I begin the game by LYING so I don't have to waste a skill tree by telling the TRUTH.

How much sense does that make?
To me, zero....

Sorry, I don't care for the whole concept.
But if they are bound and determined to have us begin this way, more choices would be nice.

I may still LIE to get the tree I want, but I'll have more options.... geesh.

 

letting the mage choose between starting with either Fire, water, air or earth is whats needed just like choosing your weapon of choice is needed as a warrior or ranger. I'm fine leaving chaos, death, moon, and sun magic as things you need to work towards.

 

you beat me to the punch on that one net. yes its like starting any new game. unless its straight forwardly obvious you would need to learn what the character selections do but isn't that part of the fun?.

 

See, I'm more interested in Death, Moon, Sun, and Life.

To each their own.

 

i am too but we are talking about something to start with, death , moon, sun, and chaos require a bit more advanced game play, in general. everyone gets a heal button

 

i hope so or were doomed

 

NO! Force them to employ us lonely dedicated healers. 8^p