Homesteading - Renting, Buying, Living on Grace, and More!

I honestly don't believe that anyone will ever be forced to live in a POT. Portalarium has made it quite clear that any shortage will not be of land (there is plenty of that), but of lot deeds. For example, village sized lot deeds have sold out on the add on store, and no more will be added before E1. (And probably not after, either - current thinking is that lot deeds will be distributed either through lottery or auction.) Anyone lucky enough to acquire a lot deed will be able to choose whether to place it in an NPC town, a PRT or a POT. Living in a POT will be as much an act of free will as participating in PVP.

 

Yes 230+ out of over 66000 others, yet the minority get to make their own rules., it seems like in 21st Century gaming money and connections creates it's own rules.

True their could always be one Good POT head of state.

I'm not a PVP'er so a POT owner would be making another extra rule I have to obey.

 

Pretty please, can you point me to a resource where someone from Portalarium says this? :3 I haven't been able to find this!

 

Well, neither am I. So, maybe we need to go look for a pve PoT of like mind? If you were considering living in one.

If you're not even considering it, why let it bother you? Life's got too many more important things to worry about.

 

Best I can do at short notice:
"We don't want to sell lots in game or in the store unless there are public spots available. It will probably take months of watching before we figure out exactly how many lots we can safely sell because we won't know what percentage of people go to live in PoTs." - Chris Spears, from here.

 

Make an agreement with a POT owner, love living in the POT, all things are great. POW, POT sold to someone that changes everything. Like sets it PvP when no one living there PvPs.

I'm not against POTs. Don't care if they are in game. I support anyone that wishes to own one or live in one. But I can not base my long term game play on the potential bad mood of a POT owner.

I have other options.

 

@Womby You're a gentleman and a scholar just for trying. +10 to all the virtue points!

 

And no one is forcing you to live in my pot. That is the reason I think it is not flawed.

 

Well then if people are willing to take that risk then I guess you are right. As long as there will always be housing options outside of the PoTs and it doesn't come down to those are the only places left to live in the game then you are right, no one is forcing you. Now, if it comes out that there is enough non PoTs at launch +30% and then the game becomes pretty popular(which we all hope) will the game continue to add land deeds and more land deeds outside of PoTs or will they look at PoTs as open land? No one knows that at this point, so at the moment your comment is correct but what about a year from now?

 

The potential for a POT owner to scam someone is limitless. That is flawed, at least from someone's perspective. Note: potential is not an indictment. It's a situation that as long as everyone is informed of the risks involved there is no flaw.

The other side of the coin is a jilted renter can cry foul and there is precedence in place other than word of mouth.

 

Certainly a POT owner has power to ruin the game experience for a player. Giving developers full control is not the answer. Many developers have ruined the economy and player status within an MMO. I could cite SWG NGE or Ultima Online as examples of developer decisions destroying significant player investments in time and money.

A player ran POT that abuses the occupants will be a ghost town. Give us players, the community, more credit. Yes I have a POT. No I am not some evil Socialist or Communist out to rule my kingdom with an iron fist. I just want to create an environment for fun and enjoyment of others and myself.

 

Start with this one, it gives some original thoughts on how they wanted to implement things, and some hints on the future.
https://www.kickstarter.com/project...orsaken-virtues-0/posts/434752?cursor=2532428

Then go to YouTube
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Portalarium Austin channel
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Deep dive housing
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About 2:20min in

Also in one of the later hangouts (will dig for link later when on my PC)

 

I was under the impression that housing would be somewhat scarce, will be hugely disappointed if it isn't. Only reason I pledged higher than collector was for a guaranteed house...and titles

 

If this was already addressed I missed it and offer apology in advance. Fact is I don't have time right now to read through each post. With that said, the Elephant in the room is Port Unless I've missed that along the way I have yet to hear anything definitive from them describing in exact terms how much the taxable deeds will be costing in the tax itself. It's hard to speak to the myriad variables when that huge one remains unresolved. Obviously there are those who have tax free deeds through their pledge; those who have made a purchase of the taxable deeds have simply rolled the dice and, I would imagine many who have purchased the taxable deeds have done so because of their experience in UO. In any event, Unless and until Port speaks... we're just making a lot of speculations.

 

Deeds are scarce. Land lots to claim with those deeds, not so much.
So while there will be more land to chose from, housing will still be scarce.

 

wont you be able to purchase deeds in some store after release?
seems a bit backwards to me... I mean wouldn't that leave us with ghost towns? hey buy a town but no houses available anymore

 

That would make many Player Owned Town owners extremely upset. I hope they wouldn't throw those backers out in the wind.

 

The issue with that is what do they do? Meaning, if there are no NPC lots left for these deeds where do they go?

 

Well, Port has stated plenty of times now that no one will ever be forced to live in a POT... there will be a lot in an NPC town for them somewhere... the deeds will be limited but the lots won't be. The have stated they are not going to sell more deeds than there are lots. Watch the hangouts on housing and I believe the end of summer marathon it came up again.

If they sell them in a store or in game (or hand them out like candy), they've said no one will have to live in POT... there will be an NPC town lot. I don't know how many more times they need to state it before people believe them.

 

A few points. Someone or a group of players bought up a large number of village lots in a coordinated effort. Those village lots and other add on store deeds might only be available for a player in a POT. To protect yourself, buy an add on store deed or pledge with a deed, while they are still available. Even more so during the period of 15% bonus credits.

Prime locations of the world may only have POTs nearby. Certain instances with "end game" content or rare resources might only have a POT near. To avoid long travel times the POT maybe the only option.

Remote areas of the map may only have a POT and no NPC town.

Player Owned Towns in some circumstances would become a very attractive option for many players.