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Discussion in 'Release 26 Feedback Forum' started by Dorham Isycle, Feb 2, 2016.

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  1. Dorham Isycle

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    I've discovered that archery is still pretty poor. I'm level 71 base ranged & level 10 newbie in blades & blades kills better than ranged. The problem is all the misses

    Back to training blades this release :/
     
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    So... you feel that hit chance is lower with ranged than with blades? that's interesting, missing shots is one of the things that annoys me the most, but i thought it was only linked to the difference in dexterity between yours and the enemy's.
     
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    What are you fighting? What is your Dex? What is your skills at not just the ranged skill? . . . . . . . .

    There are so many more factors to use then just that top ranged skill. I have had no problems with ranged and the two new skills are nice I cannot wait until the PvPers start to complain about the 6 shots in the rapid fire LoL.

    If you are just using auto attack and your ranged is 71 you have an effective attack skill of 35 :)

    ALOT more data needs to be presented to evaluate your reasoning.
     
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    Well, I was going to comment, but I see Weins already said pretty much what I was going to say...
    Soo...............................;)
     
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    It's time for a Weins sponsored multi-meta chart !!! :p
     
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    lmao, no data here to busy trying to figure out crafting :)
     
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    I noticed it change after Friday, on Saturday I spent most of my time crafting so didn't notice any change then but by Sunday I did notice I started hitting things less. My test today was based on the small spiders in Starting area south of Owlshead. I play NOT in auto attack, I use skills. Yes I can kill stuff, that's not what I'm saying. I can kill stuff faster with newbie blades, not on a new character, just arm a sword with no skills with my Ranger & start. It hits more than it misses, unlike arrows which are faster but hit less & only 1 mob at a time. Don't have that skill to waste extra arrows yet :0

    I'll still use the ranger skills to distance attack, Oh yea.

    *edit I don't have the dex data but it's been raising since birth

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    Thou wilt diverge from thy virtue path ! The oracle will let you have an earful ! :z
     
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    Do you think it has anything to do with the direction you are facing and how close you are when you let go, by any chance?
     
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    I know on Friday i was hitting everything with arrows, Sunday I was missing.
     
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    Kool Thanks don't know why you are missing so much ill go out later and use mine on same crittes and see how it goes :)
     
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    Ok I just ran Out and entered same area and fought I think 8 - 10 of them and only missed 5 times total and you are much further along than I am
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    So no idea why you missed so much
     
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    Why is archery crap in every single modern game ? I don't get it
     
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    I think weins just showed that it wasn't crap. I dunno. I didn't read the posted combat log pics...
     
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    It's been crap the entire time and honestly, it's not a SoTA only issue. Ranged combat is just not as effective as Melee in the vast majority of games that came out after 1983
     
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    Not sure what happened but It seems to be working again.
    cautious *Yay*
     
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    It's a phenomenon called "bad RNG day."
     
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    OK, but it is better to be in Epic Plate than Epic leather for ranged. Greater Damage avoidance
     
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    Dex doesn't increase your chance to hit but it does decrease their chance to dodge! :O Too long of a topic to go into tonight but the short version is... Defender gets a base dodge chance of his dex/2 - your dex/4. Also, dex can increase crit chance. Other than that the only real thing that generally will make you miss is being more than 20 levels lower than an NPC which will give you a -1 chance per level beyond 20. Level doesn't matter in PVP for hit chance, only the weapon skill.

    Probably time for me to do another hour long talk on combat!
     
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    That is a personal choice neither is actually better, what will make the difference is with crafted it appears that you can either works your items to be defensive or offensive, and a whole suit tweaked to go one way or the other will be significant. Almost got to the point of producing some viable data :)

    The real major difference between plate and chain is they are in the heavy tree and give good defensive glyphs, and Leathers and Cloth are in the Light tree and are more maneuver / speed related, ah and heavy stuff has ALOT of fizzle so effects casting greatly where cloth has non so a mage archer is definitely better of in leather or cloth.
     
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