Relationships and sex in SotA

The rational argument is it won't improve the game at all and considering there are currently only two animators on the team, I'd rather have them working on stuff that improves the game rather than working on porn.

What isn't rational is trying to justify explicit sex in-game and between players because the Little Mermaid was a romance story.

 

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I believe the OP does not say he wants explicit sex.

 

Then why ask for it at all? I've made this case before.. in this very thread.. in fact, the person who resurrected this thread quoted me from part of that discussion.

There is NO point whatsoever.. in having built in features for sex that isn't explicit. Think about what your options are here. In your face.. and what? a black screen with maybe some giggles, monas and someone going "honk honk!" ? There's no point at all going the black screen route for players since the only thing that results in is them having to tell others "we just had sex.. duh". Which they could do anyway without a black screen.

Either you see it.. or you don't. If you don't then only those involved witness themselves NOT seeing it. How utterly useless is that? You might as well RP playing ping pong in the back room and coming out "hey guess what we just did? ha ha!"

People aren't going to go for that.. they'll RP it if that's what they really want.

Also you start adding content and it'll never be enough. Those who actually want it will constantly want more.

 

you have stated this how many times in this thread? We get your thoughts on it. We understand your feelings. But some people want to discuss this without being judged or told to stop posting. If you do not want to read it just do not read it.

 

brink, I am sorry but this is not the thread for this discussion. In fact it is not a discussion for Sota forums at all. Many people here are homosexual and I have many friends that are and they do not need this. Please refrain from this topic.

 

I apologize for any inconvince I may have caused, I was only bringing this topic up because it is referred to in the original post. I will no longer bring it up unless someone else quotes me. or continues the topic on their own.

 

At one point have I judged or told anyone to stop posting? I have no once made a moral case either way except perhaps to point out that minors will be playing which some would consider valid concern regardless of which side you're on.

I always find it a bit odd when people start saying "don't tell us to shut up.. if you don't like it go somewhere else".

If you want to actually discuss.. Make a GOOD case and allow others to try their best to tear it down. Then let the devs decide. Though to me, a good case does not involve making thin comparisons between other games that SotA is not, justifying through ratings or anything other than how a feature might actually improve SotA.

Either a feature improves the game and as has value on some level.. or it does not. Who has done what in other stories, games or media are irrelevant to this. This is SotA. Not Little Mermaid, not Game of Thrones and not Playboy Mansion.

 

in this very post you make a moral case, by saying minors will be playing it. That is not your concern, that is up to the parents of the minors letting them play this game. It is not our job to be their parents. Why are you so adamant about sexuality being a negative. It is everywhere in life and in nature. The OP expressively says he was not talking about explicit sex, just scenarios that people could act like couples, and if they wanted to sleep with each other the lights go out ( your screen goes black), as a simulation of sleeping or what ever. it does not have to be this evil immoral picture you are painting.

 

As explained.. the black screen is a pointless feature. It doesn't do anything for anyone in a multiplayer environment. It doesn't tell the players anything that they don't tell each other by agreeing to go there in the first place. So.. no point in having it.

You'll note that in my quote there.. I pointed out the ONE exception of mentioning that minors will be playing myself. So repeating that is moot.

At no point in this entire thread have I said anything to even remotely imply sex or sexuality is a negative. Why are you so adamant about trying to make it sound like I'm making a moral case when I'm not? I haven't said anything about it either way. What I HAVE been saying.. is that SotA doesn't need any kind of features to simulate it. Those are entirely two different things and you're not going to trip me up on that.

If you are incapable of producing an argument as to how these features you want actually improves gameplay then what is your case exactly? You seem to be the one between the two of us insisting on making this a moral case.

*I* have, all along been talking design and development.. with the exception of minors playing.. but mainly design and development. Bang for buck. Does it improve the game or does it not? How? Why do players need a feature to simulate something they'll simulate through RP regardless? Where's your case? Design and development issues..

You see I don't need to make a moral case. Design and development is more than sufficient without pointing fingers, putting words in people's mouths, making unbased accusations and all that rot that comes when people start making a moral argument.

All of which is moot to begin with since it's never going to happen in the foreseeable future. Not with a low budget and 2 people on the team doing animations. It's not that kind of game.

Yet somehow.. because I make ANY case at all against having PvP sex I'm somehow being judgmental and making a solely moral case trying to paint some evil immoral picture? You're going to have to do better than that. Make a case.. where the benefit? Why should Portalarium put real time and money into this?

 

lol another major repetition, and again I see your point. The black screen is pointless to "you". Your point of view is noted. *awaiting wall of text saying the exact same thing as in previous posts....*

 

That's funny.. aren't you one of the guys who wants to discuss the topic some more? Didn't I say we'd be going over the same ground and yet you persist anyway? If my responses are repetitive.. it's because I'm responding to the same old things over and over.

Now.. do you want to discuss.. or not? Make.. your.. case. Otherwise.. all your doing.. is saying what's already been said.. over.. and over..

 

All I am doing is responding to you. You want to make every thing you say fact. You think that your scenario is the scenario and that we should just be done with the discussion because you have said countless times that it pretty much is pointless to have this in the game because it takes away resources and is not needed. That is your opinion. Anyone that replies to this thread with input you come back and restate your opinion, over and over. My opinion is that this game is filtered and has many different capabilities to be filtered for content that you do not want to see. If you do not want to have a relationship with some one then do not have one. The op just wants to experience life in game with a partner, it does not have to be explicit. I am not opposed to this. If a person wants to have a routine relationship everyday with some one in game that mirrors real life what do I care. If it could be implemented then why not. It wont hurt you. Maybe it could be a stretch goal for funding. No one is saying do it right now. It is just discussing the topic and not discussing the monetary or time ramifications.

 

Likewise I'm only responding to you here. Like it or not the development issues do factor into whether a feature is feasible or not. There's no escaping that.. but if the sum of your stance is "I want" than you probably shouldn't berate someone for being repetitive 13 pages in.

Also it doesn't do you any good to continually try to state as apparent fact what's going on my brain. First I'm painting an evil immoral picture and now I'm trying to make everything fact. What else am I thinking I wonder? You're the one painting pictures here. I'm not sitting here trying to tell everyone what your motivations and intentions are without you having stated them yourself. I would appreciate the same courtesy.

 

My short two cents, if you want sex in a game, venus riseing might be more to your likeing....

 

And a square peg can go in a round hole. And a round peg can go in a square hole.

The only thing that ever matters is the size of the hole.

IBL.

 

Darn, I thought you were going to show us a British phone booth

 

Hey, they could make it a stretch goal. Equality I say! lol

 

The bigger curiosity to me is, of all the games mentioned that have sexual content (and then we're told we shouldn't compare....), those games sell incredibly well. Apparently a fairly large population likes daily activities part of a game. I mean, if they want people to "live" in the game, it's just another aspect of daily living. Watching adults get bent out of shape over a normal, healthy human activity is a mystery to me. And yet some of those same folks prefer to engage in truly unhealthy human activities (thieving, cannibalism or PvP). C'mon. What's the hangup?

You want to be able to splatter blood or eat your foe. Why rain on others' parade when all they want is a freakin' black screen? I can as easily tell you to imagine killing your adversary, rather than creating the graphics for it.

I don't think anyone in this thread has asked for animations and graphics. Only a storyline perhaps.

Edit: the only thing I think would be nice is if they could at least make it so someone can actually lay down in their own bed.