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Cost of Trainning and Skill Reset

Discussion in 'Release 19 Feedback' started by Sir Niccoli, Jun 25, 2015.

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    Now that there appears to be a real cost associated with training. Yes, just gimped myself trying to train up to where I was. No I didn't read the notes it's my own fault. But hey, I am not stuck walking now and can carry stuff again.

    Can we get the ability to play around with the numbers while at the trainer, without being screwed over.

    Misclicked, too bad, money gone.

    Honestly I would love to see the ability to add and remove while there, confirm when complete to have the money actually taken.

    It only makes sense as you have the ability to change your mind at a merchant, to add the same style of expenditure on a trainer.
     
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    Good suggestion. Will add to schedule
     
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    Also, right now costs seems high to me. Maybe I just don't know how to make money in game but I had around 10k gold. I am level 41 and have almost spent all the gold retraining, and still have over 200 points I could spend (and 212 crafting). This seems to tell me that either the costs are high or I need to farm resources and sell them. OR I need to craft.

    It already seemed like I was barely getting ahead, just going out into the world and doing things, with costs of repairs and occasionally selling resources. Now it appears that my focus needs to be selling resources because killing stuff doesn't pay the bills.

    This currently feels like the adventurer can't get by without other work.
     
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    Yeah I think I lost 50k by testing whether some skills fit in my deck...

    And the costs are rather high I had to pay 200k to train and it is not deck for PvP tournaments.... it is too much.
     
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    Holy crap, I have about 6k from R17 & R18 combined, looks like they don't want me to play
     
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    Annnnnd I can't go to Owl's Head, Internal Server Error and warped back to Kingsport. Was hoping to see if I had money in the bank maybe as I'm now broke, and haven't even touched crafting skills which means I won't be able to harvest well either.... Time to look for "money making tips in Shroud" I guess.
     
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    You can, just make sure to only buy the lower level skills and get enough to not have blanks. At least you have fore warning.
     
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    I went on the test server last night and was going to check out buying some pigment to die my armor etc. But I made the mistake of re-distributing my skill points. I was excited to try and test the new chaos spells and new combos. I had 80,000 gold on me and started putting my points in and could not finish all my gold was wasted and I didn't even have 750 to buy a pigment to die something. I also am maxed on intel by the time I was up to 50 in the focus tree for train intel I was flat broke could not even check out the new spells/combos!
     
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    Yepers really BAD planning making training cost so much :-(
     
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    Really 200K ther may be 10% of players who can even get close to that amount without intervention.

    Need to fix this ASAP =

    Really DEVs?
     
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    Training costs may make more sense if you are starting out and you are earning gold as you level but if you are starting at higher levels already, I can see why people are feeling the pain.
     
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    After all my work I have 2 K left and can only train 5 skill levels???!!
     
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    Seriously I am about to cash in some of the items and resources I have but still will prob come up short on what I need to even rebuild my simple Skill Tree, not to mention if I EVER want to swap to Gust Ball setup?

    Something really needs to be done, ASAP, perhaps a decimal point or TWO change.

    Come on really REALLY cost prohibitive.
     
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    Wow i didn't even noticed the prices !! Good i had around 50k ... had

    time to start farming bugged monsters :D

    Only advantage money are worth something now! But the prices on highers tiers should be lowered, or You don't want people to test anything, because one thing is testing one thing is wasting time to farm money to test something
     
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    yeah...I only have like 7k and the most I have ever had at one time during R17 or R18 is 18K. And with no skills I can't go make money. And I bet I won't be the only one unable to do tournaments. That is true for my initial training. But some of us toggle between skills for gustball and tournaments. So this puts me out of everything.
     
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    We need a WIPE !!!

    :D
     
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    The issue is that normally these costs would be spread out over long periods of time. Because we wiped skills (Yes, probably a mistake in hindsight) high level players are most screwed because they have so much to retrain. My belief is the costs are appropriate though.

    Agree that we should have a way to undo a change if you haven't left the vendor.
     
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    I just don't see how a player with no money can go out and make money without any skills. Especially since the game is still in Alpha I don't think there is any reason to charge as much yet. I can understand doing this when a full wipe happens so that the costs are spread out as you are leveling up, but doing so in the games current stage doesn't make any sense and is very frustrating... especially when there isn't a way to undo anything yet.
     
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    IMO the costs are set way to high. They are prohibitive to testing at this stage and need serious attention.....
     
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    If they hold to what I was told yesterday, they have no plans to compensate anyone for the cost of training. (as per Darkstarr's response in the R19 thread when I asked about compensation). However, with more people complaining they may change their minds.
     
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