Banning/Permissions Control List for Owners/Co-Owners

In the grand scheme of things, it is taking over 5.5 million dollars and a metro cost 5,000. That is approximately 0.09% of of the development cost. That is not enough to dictate anything. The important thing is to make a great game for everyone.

 

Why would it not be a great game for you if you could not see a town on your map? "a town you don't own mind you." How would it alter your game play in any way if you couldn't go into a town you where un wanted in and you couldn't even see it?

 

Let's not rehash the debate here please.

to break all that down.. if an owner wanted a truly private town.. yes it could be invisible on the map. I think that's a fair solution to the argument of people trying to enter towns they otherwise couldn't. You only see it if you're on the town's friends list.

 

I don't really have a problem if the devs want to make a special little hideaway for some people. What ever they decide, it will be and we will simply have to make the best of it. The devs have already said that the cost of making the POTs is a wash for them. I am guessing the hope is that we want POTs to add value to the game.

 

That IS actually why i bought one XD

 

I agree with all of this, as long as there are no resources in the player town instances, and the devs have said there won't be. I've already posted in one of the other threads so won't repeat myself here.

As for the last sentence about hoping the devs will jump in and put the issue to rest........GUFFAW!!!!! I'd sure hate to be hanging til that happens. They never do on any subject no matter how much it rages or how hot it gets.

 

It doesn't pay to jump in on topics like this too early. It's better for Portalarium to wait until a point in development where they're ready to deal with an issue directly. If certain features aren't even in a design phase then they themselves can't say much with a lot of certainty.

 

I had thought the dev's had said something about events being able to exist across instances, in the same way your house, merchant, and Devs, can appear in all instances of a zone. Thus everyone would be able to see them and appreciate the event. Thus there would be no need to funnel people into different instances, just into the location where the event is occurring.

 

Perhaps that is with DEV or main game events, perhaps not for player ran events?

I'm all for POT owners having full control over access. Coming into someone's POT does not in anyway interfere with anyone advancing with the game storyline. IMHO of course

 

The main problem i have with this discussion. who sets the rules when someone can be banned.
Can the event leader ban at will - dictator
- will the ban be voted: democracy
- will there be a tribunal

We never talk about the abuse of these banning tools.
And to be honest even i forget about the uncountable situations banning tools are abused.

I have been banned for being a to unskilled player
I have been banned for being a new player
I have been banned because i had bad FPS
I have been banned for Lag, for being a enemy guild

Always keep in mind that banning tools can be, and will be abused.







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Quite a statement, do you have a link for this as a DEV statement or is this just YOUR interpretation?

 

I see your point there. Fortunately most if not all of those happen outside player towns, with a couple exceptions maybe if you are warring a guild. Yes anything can be abused. I think in this scenario, if there is nothing that can be done about griefing in player towns, its the griefer that gets away with the abuse. In your own town, meaning if you own a town, and the other person purposely travels to your town just to grief you, and can get away with it, that is an abuse of the system itself. Many griefers are intelligent and will try to walk the line on the TOS as not to break them, but just enough to annoy the crap out of ya lol.

 

What a waste.

 

Well as the devs have repeatedly stated about hangouts, is that they are not to be lawyered and what ever is said there is generally current thinking, so I am sure that if we can get a meeting with all the town owners, maybe a deep dive, and discuss this with starr or whomever, that we can clear this up. I read through 86 pages of the megapost last night in which it was briefly mentioned one little time in the dev + section. I was searching for the conversation with dev+ starr said he had concerning this issue as stated during the dev hangout posted above. I really did not find a conversation just a couple people who had his ear at the moment. I think this should be discussed with all player town owners. We should push for a deep dive hangout on this.

 

Lets asume all Lots ingame are gone! Nothing left.

The POT owner decides to ban me out if his town to give someone else who contributed more to his POT the Lot.

You ruined my game experience, but the POT owner only used the power of his ownership rights.

I am not trying to be against ban systems.
But just try to give new perspectives to it.

You can ruin someones game experience if abused


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He has that power now, maybe not to ban you from the town, but he sure has the power to kick you from your plot. That already exists in the current thinking. Its sad but true and one of the bad things about trusting a player town owner.

 

Thats why i do hope that they do not calculate POT Lots into the % of available Lots, i hope they treat them out of the Main Lot pool.


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You and me both, I dont think they can actually. I try to use logic in this scenario, but sometimes things are not logical. I would, and I hate to use the word assume, assume that they can not really count the lots against the total npc town lots. For one thing, a player town owner does not have to open their lots to anyone. They can just open a couple if they wanted too. This would do huge damage to the community and to the game if one person has the ability to lock out up to 100 lots or what ever the count is. I believe for this reason, that portalarium must have the lot count in the NPC town count, and the player lot count in addition to it.

 

If you have an absolute right to do something, no abuse can occur.

Abuse assumes someone has a right to be on YOUR property, or in YOUR town. They don't.

 

I agree Budner, but others feel they do have the right to your stuff lol. Welcome to the Socialist state of Sota.