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Enchanting has been nerfed greatly.. sad panda

Discussion in 'Release 38 Dev+ Feedback Forum' started by Lace, Jan 20, 2017.

  1. Lace

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    R37 you could maybe get a +2 or +4 base stat even on your first try.(+4 on chest and legs)

    Now first enchant is 1
    2nd one is 1.1

    what a joke

    Not spending 25 gold ore for .1 more really?
     
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    What is your enchanting skill?
     
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    As a 105 enchanter, I've done 7 enchants so far. Small test sample, still working on it... But all of them, all the way to, and including, the 46% third enchant, were minor enchants.
     
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    Same result, lvl 112 enchanter, sample size of > 50 attempts, no majors.
     
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    Did someone use a wrong data type to store the coefficients?
     
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    This is a bug. We will fix
     
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    So after digging into this today it appears the enchant you are talking about is on a ring (or necklace) which has always been a base 1 bonus. It has never been a base 2. What follows is then the new progression of stats instead of random selections as before. The number increments are larger on the larger pieces. So not a nerf but a change to indicate progression. Sorry for my misunderstanding and posting about this being a bug. It is not.
     
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    Mr. Starr, The bug we were hoping for is that nothing but minor enchants show up. There are +2 stats that could be gotten if the Major enchant were an option. However, it seems on the QA server no major enchants exist and only minor ones do. You could previously get a Major INT +2 INT enchant. Not currently, only +1 shows up.
     
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    This bug is related to enchanting skills not leveling up because there is now a skill requirement for those major enchants to show up. Will be fixed when that skill leveling bug is fixed.
     
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    Thank you for the clarification!
     
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    I understand that skill advancement is currently broken. That means I cannot jump on QA and test it soooo I have a ton of questions.

    The release notes give almost NO information. They did not point out the two new skills to grind. They did not explain the progression. They give no information about the end state power. Are we going to grind two more skills to just get back to where we were? What is the level requirement for majors to show up again? What is the bonus on each enchant?

    I am sad how many gold ingots are going to be burned thru until I can make another decent weapon.
     
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    i had a chance to test enchanting on QA. Focused on weapons and only got my skill to 25ish. Still only getting selection of minor only. i would love to know if majors are unlocked at 40 or 60. i assume it will be 60.

    i started to see some progression in enchanting power. i was able to apply minor stats with 2.7 str or dex. Some of that was the second enchant. I believe some of the bonus was based on enchant skill. I appears to me based on my very limited testing that enchant may progress and possibly be a bit stronger (after you grind the two new skills)

    Was anyone able to do more focused testing? Anyone unlock the majors?

    thanks
     
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    I'm waiting to see what will be the case when the patch comes. I can only hope that enchanting is the same as before but gets better as you further your skills. If it's a case of enchanting being worse and we must work towards getting back to where we were and only then starting to see some small improvements I will be quite disappointed.
     
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    Looks like the major enchants get unlocked at level 32 and are still twice as much bonus as the minor enchants.

    Major enchants at 110 enchanting and around level 54ish weapon enchanting are around 6 str (give or take a bit).

    From my basic math, at GM minor enchants are about 4 and major enchants are about 8.

    You can still have a minor and a major of the same stat on an item so you can get around 12ish STR at GM through a minor and major enchant.

    This is the opposite of a nerf :D.

    Sara
     
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    that is fantastic news. than you Sara. i look forward to grinding the skills up on live.
     
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    Where does the + focus and the + health come into being able to be selected? At what levels?

     
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    They're just side enchants to STR / DEX / INT. They are minor and major just like them and unlock / scale at the same time.
     
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