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Engraved tools now trump my Prosperity tools, What!!!

Discussion in 'Release 29 Feedback Forum' started by SmokerKGB, May 24, 2016.

  1. agra

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    They don't have that.
    And if you're arguing they should match the wording of what they stated in the cash-shop interface at the time of purchase, then implementation of that goal is just a matter of degrees.
    Careful, you might be agreeing with some of us... ;)
     
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    I entirely agree .
     
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    Do they have that +20 speed bonus? (Note: I won't be logging on to R30 until tonight)
     
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    Here is the post:
    The only bit which I predicted wrong there seems to be that they no longer say we can craft our own Stations.
     
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    I dont disagree or agree with yall as a whole, im jsut pickign otu thigns that are beign repeated that i dont understand yet. Mainly cuz i rememebr choosing not to buy them because it was stated their primary thing was that they would be unbreakable, but not as good as stuff u can get in game.
     
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    I dotnt hink so, agra said they didnt yet. But it shouldnt be difficult for them to add soem kidna speed bonus to it withotu upseting non addon-toiol owners like myself (speakign from that perspective, it wouldnt bother me if they did as logn as it wasnt end-game power, the durability of them alone, i think, makes them worth soemthing when compared to in-game stuff)
     
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    The artisan pledge tools have been repeatedly refered to as "basic" and "indestructable". What we can infer from this is that these can be upgraded. Just like you can take a long sword and upgrade to jewelled sword etc.
    Was there anything else besides jsut the use of the word Basic that implied artisan tools would be upgradable? I see u said there was no indication that prosperity tools would be upgradeable, I also never saw an indication of that until chris's post back there they linkled me where he said he thought they would be.

    Im still not sure where some of this info is comming from
     
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    Right, so if that's what we want them to do, maybe we should start a thread in the feedback forum requesting it?
     
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    Edited to remove content I am not sure If I can post in general because it contained exact details from R30 QA build 360.

    Here's a link to the restricted content so I know for sure it won't get me in trouble. https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...giving-incorrect-swift-gathering-bonus.51536/

    The short of it is, I don't know if it is a bug, but at very high levels the engravings matter less and less, and artisan and prosperity tools become viable options.

    at very low levels True bronze is still going to be the way to go.

    Last I checked Engraved tools were still fully repairable in the field, but I expect that to change shortly
     
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    Thanks for the testing ^^


    Couldnt hurt. Seems like alot of comments here jsut to say "we need a speed modifier on prosperity tools"
     
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    I've said it before and I'll say it again. It is not fun, entertaining, challenging, innovative, efficient or attractive (as in, attracting & keeping the customer ) to have a player stand around doing nothing for more than 20 seconds, ever. Especially not when they have to do it dozens or hundreds of times per day just to get resources to replace their own equipment. To say nothing of crafting for fun and profit.

    What is it? Boring, tedious, punitive, annoying, and repulsive (from the repelling customers perspective).

    Need more carrot and less stick.
     
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    Personally I don't think the tools of prosperity should have ever been in the game in the first place as an add-on store item. So I'm actually glad they aren't very good compared to other tools. And I have zero sympathy. =P
     
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    Games should be fun and not a chore?

    That is crazy talk!
     
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    I think it was a mistake to sell them, but they need to do right by the people who bought them.
     
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    Agreed, provided they stay within the middle ground where prosperity tools are not junk yet not contenders for best non-durability tool stats in the game.
     
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    I dont need them to be best in the game, I need them as I purchased them.

    Like this example.
     
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    I don't know what's more confusing, Tool properties or health care. Close call. :confused:

    Just make our Prosperity Tools 80% as powerful as the very best tools and call it a day?
     
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    If they actually introduce the 'practically consumable' tools Chris mentioned I don't expect them to 80% of that, 80% as powerful as the 'good' tools would be fine.
     
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    I am not sure about others, but I find watching loading bars tedious even if they are 2 seconds long. Probably anything over 200ms is tedious for me, but it is bearable in two seconds. What is worst is that I am supposed to do it again and again, watching bars and not doing anything. Well soemtimes I need to fight enemies, but the game design is that first x levels I stand no chance agaisnt mobs guarding the nodes, then there is 5-10 levels of challenging enbcounters and once I level up over that the mobs are as dull as gathering.
     
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    Well, you'll love R30 then.
    74 swift gathering field dressing
    74 field dressing
    3 skull scene
    15 seconds to skin a wolf.

    Oh yeah, feeling the FUN now?!? :D:D:D