Lot deed Raffle/Lottery update!

Lol

Nothing quite like the feeling of entitlement to live off the back of others is there.

 

You cant state, well u can state anything u like, but without knowing his background and how he accumulated that money its unfair to say you should be entitled to the same. Who knows, he may have taken on extra work, 6 hours every night after a full days work to afford the game. There's a lot of luck in life, there is also a lot of deserved benefit, without knowing full facts about someone and their history and stating that you should automatically have what others have, speaks of a 'poor me attitude' and generally those kind of people i find want something for nothing....Not casting aspersions at you as for all i know, you did all those extra hours to afford the game, but lost it all walking down the street one night... maybe....

 

+1

 

I don't see what the big deal is with this, and I have invested a few thousand myself.
As someone said earlier in this thread there are around 53,000 unlanded players, so even if all players were to claim their free ticket, and nobody else buys a single additional ticket (which is very unlikely), each players probability of winning with a free ticket is only a meagre 0.011194%...

If it goes the other way and only 1000 claim their free ticket, and another 1000 tickets are sold in game, the probability of a single player with a free ticket winning is still only 0.1153815%, bit of a stretch of the imagination to call that a slap in the face IMO

Edit: those odds presume the free tickets apply to the POT deed raffle, if they turn out to be place anywhere tickets, the odds are even worse...

 

"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work , the luckier I get" - Thomas Jefferson.

 

"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I grind, the more Tickets I buy, the luckier I get" -
Random SotA Raffle Participant

 

Double like!!!

 

They will get 1 of each type. No biggie.

 

Ok, so to make it clear, I was not being serious. I was trying to make a point that not everyone has the same benefits. Not everyone has the same opportunities. I think using how much you paid is a poor argument for anything. Someone who using "I dropped 9k" on this game in an argument is exercising the same type of entitlement attitude.

I think Bow Vale does a good job stating how much luck has to do with it.

In short, it's not a big deal. A lot of people will not log in to get their free ticket. A lot of those people will not win. And those that do win may not even be able to afford it right now. They'll either sell them or hold onto them for later.

It's not really going to affect those of you who dropped several k for whatever it is that you got at that level.

 

So....... when's the draw?

 

Server is down so it should be already a done deed (pun)... But making that announcement will take time for someone - just formatting a list of 675 names etc is a daunting task.
So don't expect the update about it too soon.

 

I know right... the cut and paste action alone could cause carpal tunnel.

 

I thought they said you'd see the deed in your bank if you won once r34 was live... but the list might not appear until Friday.

 

Yet in this case if a ticket that hasn't been picked has a much different probability of being picked on first draw vs last. It is not the same situation as the coin.

Anyways. Chris' math is correct and any one can see why it works by just imagining a simpler lottery



4 draws
11 tickets
3 for for you which we call A,B,C


4/11 chance each ticket would be drawn in the lottery

chance only A wins (Chance of A * not B winning * not C winning)
(4/11)(1-4/11)(1-4/11)=0.1472577
Chance only 1 ticket of (ie either only A only B or only C) wins (0.1472577 *3)=0.4417731

Chance A & B wins
(4/11)(4/11)(1-4/11)= 0.08414726
Chance A&B or B &C or A & C wins =.0839*3=0.2524418


Chance AB&C wins

(4/11)(4/11)(4/11)=0.04808415

Chance not winning =1-(0.4417731+0.2524418+0.0480841)=0.257701

Wins Chance
0 0.257701 = 0
1 0.4417731 = 0.4417731
2 0.2524418 = 0.5048836
3 0.04808415 = 0.1442525
= 1.090909 wins on average (you may win 0 or 2 or 3, but on average (or as Chris is calling even odds) you will get about 1)

But I simply could have done
draws/numbertickets*yourTickets
4/11 *3 = 1.090909



Or in Chris' case

600/2606*4.34=1

Well, he probably just did 2606/600 to get 4.34


EDIT: Of course the number in Chirs' case will change as the number of tickets sold increases

 

would love to see the final number of tickets sold and a graph/timeline showing when they were bought i think chris caused quite a few to jump in

 

Even with cut-n-paste the formatting of a table is different in these forums, on STEAM and on the SotA main site, enough so that dallas has been follicly challenged for a while now.

Yea, but that wasn't from the dev who does the db stuff, who instead said it might take a day or two the first time depending on how the tech works out. Given that it is their first time I hope there are some manual steps so that they can detect potential issues while the server is offline.

 

haha you and me both!

 

I just realized when I get home from work I'll be able to login and find out if I won any deeds... too stressful lol

 

What's really going to bother the "poor me, can't I have what he has for free?" attitudes out there is this fact.... some of us "Rich Folks" have multiple accounts, some of my accounts do not own property nor do they have deeds in the bank. So those accounts will get FREE tickets. Point being.....some of us rich guys are getting free chances at lot deeds anyway. Chew on that one "have nots"

 

are we sure that the ticket will auto turn into a deed if won? Or do we have to wait till Friday to see the winners list and then turn in our tickts to get the deed????

Chris's initial post made it seem that it would be instant, but then he questioned himself and left that little safety net of I hope in there..

can we get an answer from a DEV (@Chris @DarkStarr ) if the lot deeds have been distributed to the winners.. and if so, can I place my raffle ticket as a deco on a table in my house?