Poll: Adult rated towns/basements in SotA? [UNOFFICIAL]

I did but it must've gone over my head. I've just heard so many people saying "Well Ultima VII had sex and nudity" as if to make a serious comparison. That and it's getting late here. I blame the time.. yeah that's it! But mostly I was just taking advantage of the fact that you actually posted the image.. .

 

Hey if you all get your virtual bell-ends out i want my opium poppies and hookahs .. just sayin

 

I think you're reading too much into it personally.. though I would agree he's not making kiddie games and I'm fine with that.. but he also was intentionally using graphics that didn't highlight graphic violence or nudity. Compared to other games and movies of the time.. what we saw in Ultima wasn't there for eye candy.. and when the graphics did improve (IX).. those elements weren't in the game at all.

 

I'll repeat again, if anyone wants to see how "great" an adult themed online game is just check out Second Life.
That game is horrendous, I played for only 2 weeks because my sister played it and I wanted to know why she
liked it so much, it's a glorified chat room where you can't do anything other than chat and build stuff and
chat. Then there's the "dark side" of the game, including full blown nudity and explicit items created by
the players themselves. The game lets you "build" whatever you want and players have "built" the most explicit
things you can think of. One reason I initially wanted to login was to see a Back to the Future set re-created
only to find it wasn't there, and there are some other cool places, like a Blade Runner themed city, but then
there are some disgusting themed cities, they seem like the XXX district of Japan, and I've never been to
Japan that's just one way to describe it. It doesn't add to the game, it greatly detracts from it, which causes
a certain type of player to gravitate toward the game.

I don't think they'd want that certain type of player to gravitate toward SOTA. I started playing the Ultimas
around 12, kids like video games and as is the game is perfectly acceptable for kids, eliminating that market
suddenly isn't something that would logically happen. It's something that could happen if a game was designed
for that purpose from day 1, but SOTA is clearly not a game with that goal in mind, it was clearly designed
to be played by everyone of all ages.

 

really? you want to compare the graphics of that era with MOVIES, are you serious?

its a DOS native game for Christ sake, didn't even run in 3.1

talk about grasping at straws

 

People seem to want to compare graphics of that day to justify putting stuff in SotA.. "There's sex in UVII!" etc etc.. So you're making my point for me here.. there is no comparison to make between what was then.. and what is being asked for now.

If people are going to use comparisons as justification to add features.. those comparisons should be roughly equal shouldn't there?

A single player game with no human interaction and fading out to black screens is not a justification "adult rated" content with live human interaction. It's just not the same thing... yet people try to draw these kinds of comparisons all the time. Oh well.. Ultima did it.. The Witcher has this.. God of War had that.. ok.. tell me about a multiplayer game that did and how that worked out.

People don't just do it with this subject but others too.. and it's like comparing apples to oranges to justify something they want.

 

What multiplayer game? I pledged to the single player game, I could care less how the rest of you play

 

Did Captain Jack just read this, or is he plastered well. Captain Jack must remember how to test himself once again, so he can tell the difference between normal drunk and this.

Because you see Captain Jack's logic would say, with an attitude like yours and very clear desire not to communicate with others in a meaningful way and play due to you only "pledged to the single player game" ... He can't really see why you would have ever bothered to log into the forum in order to tell people their multi-player ideas are no good for your single player game?

 

Captain Jack found the words i could not.

 

well quite honestly if this kind of garbage did make it into a game like this, I personally would walk away, so to be honest let me know now if this has ANY chance of being put into the game, that way I can sell my account now and walk away......

 

Garbage like sex or mutilations and cannibalism?

 

Your going to walk away from "garbage" nudity that's have no idea of the depth or scope of it but that's funny since most logical adults that can deal with mature topics would quit over the "garbage" combat system first. You guys just prove my point that somehow something that is completely normal and acceptable around the globe and completely avoidable is obviously too offensive for some reason I cannot fathom. Do you watch cable? I see nudity all the time on shows

And guess what there are game ratings in which such ppl should adhere too and just admit hey are too immature to deal with it. What is so offensive about something u can completely opt out of participating.

I offer examples time and again of games where it was ingame and had no negative consequences. Both online and offline.
Keep refusing to answer such simple questions and that's how u stifle any real debate on what it can add to the game.

You seem to be just too close minded to even consider the idea that t can be tasteful and doesn't havecto revolve around "dirty" sex type scenes. You automatically and wrongly assume that sex is the main reason for it. I've tried to show you guys how it could be done but you are just too stubborn to even try to see it from any other point of view than that of some little kid finding dads pornos

It doesn't have to be about sex but you keep inserting that's all that it's about you just refuse to try and see it any other way but the narrow illogical over reactionary outdated prude way that has mainly died out long ago

I would gladly stop calling you out on your placating if you could present an acceptable response that actually furthers the debate

Obviously u will continually run into a brick wall when you cannot seem to get past the concept that nudity doesn't always equal pornography but you always love going there as a nonsense fallback argument. ffs my children seem to have more mature grasp of this concept and are able to get past what u seemingly cannot

 

themo is right:

Spoiler

 

not much of a workload to create a few skin models.. i banged them out in class in under a month. they dont "need" special features for that. but they also dont "need" to have a bunch of silly teachable emotes.

your concern of explicit must be a broad one as explicit means gratuitous porno type actions which #1 can be done with out you knowing so you shouldnt care, and #2 if you do know and dont like it then disable it.

still cant answer the magic question... why do you care about something that is avoidable.

why make one type of player have to use his imagination to accomplish the same goal someone with different objectives can do because it was implimented ingame, because you consider it explicit somehow now its like an underground shameful thing? ancient peoples considered the human body a work of art, as do many today. I think the biggest problem here is people projecting their definitions and whatever dirty sex things they have bouncing around in theri own head, they do not apply to everyone.

i dont rp, im not a perv. i'd just liek the option to be a streaker with the coconuts from monty python.. its completely harmless.. how is that explicit? its not like there is gonna be a /helicopter emote.


leaving hte extra conetent out and letting ppl rp it has worked over the years? yeah and guess what, its not 1999 anymore. and we arent in victorian times. society accepts nudity as they do many other things. just because yo udont seem to doesnt mean its wrong or anyone else should have to play caveman stick figures and do fake emotes to accomplish someting they find fun.

i can call myself a dinosaur and rp an anthromorph thingy that has 15 toes but guess what, its the same level of imagination required. thing is, they can add whatever they feel or dont feel like, but there arent many ppl wanting to be a RP dinosuar with 15 toes. to each his own man.. why cant you let that concept sink in?

 

ok so why not have the option to blur things you dont like.. again.. people would bend over backwards to accomdate such outdated notions of societal conformity in regards to nudity. but.. its never enough until you completely dominate and control how other people play and think sounds like.

age of conan did it, theres your multiplayer. you need to stop moving the goalposts when we give you facts and proof to counter your point.. second life. etc etc. how many more do yo uwant off my list?

its not apples and oranges a game is a game is a game. people play co-op. its fewer players but its the same fundamental exposure. you seem to think that it doesnt matter unless its a mmo, and guess what. theres this thing called single player online.. i really fail to see any logic in whatever points you are trying to prove.

 

Granted it has been a real long time but if I remember correctly, in U7 there was a lady of the evening in Bucs Den... along with some gambling. I believe you even had an option of "sleeping" with her. U7 was so ground breaking!

 

I don't mind the gore, per say, as long as it's within reason (Ultima 7 being a good metric ).

As for sex/nudity I get it in the real world no need for it in the virtual. Just remember as dear Iolo used to ask, "Avatar, is that virtuos?"

 

Not only in games, but in music (all about sex drugs alcohol etc), Movies (being more open to sexual scenes even if it's a 12 rated film), adverts! especially adverts on normal daytime TV that somehow find their way and use sexual innuendos (the herbal essences advert always makes me laugh), books/magazines/newspapers all demonstrate some sexually explicit content there for anyone to see. (The Sun page 3 for instance).

The past few decades, there has been a slow and steady growth in this content leaking their ways into public view to a point where it's beginning to be an ordinary thing for the newer generations who grow up being around constant bombardment of the above. Same with games. 20-30 years ago, barely any nudity or explicit content would be shown, now most games will demonstrate some sexual content.

How society is nowadays is quite upsetting, in relation to how everything is focused on how a man or woman looks, what they need to wear, must fit a particular criteria and games (and other media) take advantage of that to attract particular audiences.

I think that's why I've always stuck with Nintendo because they create a game environment where you want to share your experiences in gaming together and have fun. Not join a game because it's got big breasted women, with the so called "perfect" figures and other malarkey.

 

Obviously you don't. You simply dismiss everything as being nonsensical, outdated, attempting to dominate and control and whatever else you've rattled off.

You know I honestly don't care how you see this reply or how anyone else sees it. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who's on the fence can decide for themselves who is making the better argument and who isn't being logical or respectful in how they go about making their case.

So we're done here.

 

There is a difference between a non-graphic sex scene in a single player game and features for graphic sex in multiplayer where there are minors playing the game.