PvP town and Banning Permissions, Does it cross the line?

Yes this should be the mechanic for gustball --> https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/f...ivation-option-enemy-activation-option.29752/

 

I actually voted 'I don't care' in this thread because I doubt the ban function will be removed. That doesn't mean to say I won't be taking names of those who voted 'yes'

 

I do agree with your point Envy, It will promote PvP in other places if anything.

 

As I say any so called PvPer who owns a Town and then bans people is just an absolute joke. Let their 'PvP' town be empty

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And I will be sneaking in on another character to PK them when they are low on health in some white glove slapping duel.

 

There are no rp situations where people get killed at an event?

This is why POT owners should manage the rules.

 

PvP towns are optional. They also carry a reputation. Actions have consequences. A ghost town is no longer a PvP town.

 

I think I see a flaw that I made in the poll. I should have asked in addition. "are you a pvp'r and want ban controls in a pvp town" and "are you a pve'r and want ban controls in a player town" and visa versa.

 

When you pay real money for something you want to feel like you have control. The ability to ban someone that is a harassment is no different than having that ability in your house.

 

So if you pay more then you get more control? I should have a ton of control then.

 

If you pay for a house, you get control of a house. If you pay for a POT you get control of a POT.

Some lots and houses cost more than some POTs.

What's the problem?

 

It is different in a player owned pvp town compared to a player owned pve town. But I digress. I just want to know if you are in favor or not of this. Lets get back on topic or drocis will derail this thread.

 

That's not helpful or called for.

 

Just trying to stay on topic

 

This thread and chats with the Baron are starting to make me think about making my POT PVP. Not my cup of tea personally but I would do it to support other players preferred play style. Need to see what folks will want if any move into my wee POT nested with the lovely metro of Vanguard. Need to talk with Jatvardur about it too. Much to think about. I still don't get how all this exploit stuff would work I keep reading about as I am a dullard and a gentle bunny too. Interesting reading so thanks folks for sharing this.

 

I'll just jump out of the thread. I don't need to be personally attacked.

I rarely report people, the way I figure it they always end up getting what they deserve in the end. I'm out.

 

there have been many threads discussing the potential exploits of banning in a pvp town. I will try to find them later, its getting late here for me and tomorrow is monday morn lol.

 

This was already covered a while back and is pretty much a dead horse - POT owners can and will ban if they so chose.

Remember that this does have a cap though of 10.

And sorry there are even some PvP people who will ban certain players.

Players that will be banned from PvP towns are some of the ones who have actually already received suspensions from the game itself. And they deserve what they get.

 

This response takes my comment into a different context. Paying more to get more is no where near the point.

When you purchase a house or a POT. You would expect/like some administrative controls. No one is required to purchase a POT and no one is required to visit one. I can't see the devs adding content (story arch) to a specific POT. So if a POT owner sets absurd rules or uses the administrative controls "exploit" someone - simple solution, never go there again.

PS I can't see how any of this has been off topic. This is a forums for discussion. You will get more than just a support or do not support reply. I support controls in line with house controls. I see a house and a POT as identical. Don't like the owner don't visit.

 

You brought up the real money argument and that people feel the need for control. I did not. I would like that to stay out of the equation as it separates us as a community. Now I do understand the need for player controls, I do. I do not think though that banning in a pvp town is necessarily a good idea. We know that pvp people are aggressive and want to win. Some want to win and will do anything to win. I am not saying most of the people will do this, but some will. They if they lose to some one better will ban out of spite. Some will ban during a fight if they are losing. There are more examples of exploits but as I told mbomber I am just tired and will post more later.

 

I have been away for a while but I was under the impression the only way to own a POT is with real money. If there was some way of earning ownership in game I could see a reason to build a system of government instead of admin controls. It is a big deal when you attach a monetary value and you have zero recourse to deal with bad situations.

Just as you can think of exploits the ban can create there are bound to be players exploiting in a POT. If there is no way to deal with them it will cause some very bad situations that could end with people not purchasing POTs.

Would you PvP with someone in a NPC town knowing they can and will use the guards if they are losing? Of course not, so why would you PvP with someone knowing they can and will ban you from their POT.

POT owners will want people to visit their town. Their reputation matters and the word will spread quickly. Just as it does in any other aspect of PvP.