*shakes head sadly* This thread is a classic example of why the PvP community in MMOs is just impossible to please... and perhaps even impossible to reason with. The original post makes an absurd claim that somehow forcing everyone to have to manually target is going to make it a more challenging game, the thread devolves into claims Shroud should be more like a number of different games, many of which aren't even in the same genre (Mortal Kombat? Really?), and it's not until Mad Jack comments that anyone even touches upon the main issue which makes it nothing more than wish fulfilment and ego stroking. Let me tease out the reality; 1.) PvPers want to win 2.) They will min/max their character, their game client, even their computer to give a slight edge over another. 3.) This will also include Macros, as Jack pointed out. If there's any way to automate a fight, they will. There are dedicated mice and keyboards and controllers specifically for that mindset indeed, mapping commands to in some case literally hundreds of buttons. 4.) Thus taking out tab targeting will just find it put back in unofficially by PvPers some other way if it gives any perceived benefit. 5.) Which leads into years of trash talking as people assume everybody else is using "crutch programs" etc... Honestly, how can anyone even vaguely connected with gaming not be aware of this inevitable pattern? The original post just comes across as some insane level of self-importance, or worse, possibly a way to deliberately break the game for everyone else for the usual undeserved elitism... ... and only Mad Jack, a decent PvP type it seems, spots the nub of the matter and honestly addresses it; if people who don't have teenage level reflexes can't fight equally, how is that truly balanced PvP, and more importantly, how is it going to attract the on-average more mature MMO crowd to it if they can't compete with people who, if they were honest, would be cheating like the devil behind the scenes anyway? I suspect the hope of those asking for it is that they wouldn't, so they get the advantage of youth... And there's so many more honest ways to balance a PvP fight than just twitch reflexes... which you'll value when your reactions start to slow too, but you can still take on entire groups of opponents at a time by fighting smarter. But if people really, REALLY want a way to use targeting that way; perhaps take a trick from War Thunder, a WW2 f2p game, where you can Lock Target to the unit closest on a simple X/Y axis on the screen to where the cursor is. Map it to a mouse button and away you go, but it requires pointing your nose to pick up the one you want. But do it in combination with tab and all other forms of targeting; we're dealing with magic here, not iron sight gaming remember?