Why oh why devs... PvP zones and forcing people to go there, idiotic.

Forcing things like PvP on people is not really a good way to go...

 

@Khaza I feel sorry for you. All you are thinking about is yourself and no one else. This game was not made just for you and your entertainment alone. Go hire @devilcult, @Grumpy, @E n v y, @Vallo Frostbane or any other pvper to protect you in the pvp zone so you and you alone can get your head. I am sure any one of them would protect you while you and you alone are trying to kill Sobek for his head. (oh, and if you can kill Sobek alone without any one of them healing you, then I'm pretty sure you can protect yourself from any pvper who is in there!) Get to know some of the pvpers, you will be surprised how nice they really are.. They are NOT bad people in real life.

 

@Ariella Shadowdancer I am thinking about me alone... I am not thinking about every other non-PvPer that would like to be able to get the achievement to get the mounted heads by themself. You are right... Oh wait, no you are wrong. Sure I am thinking about myself as well, but also about the rest of the PvE community that might not want to venture into PvP zones to get the head from Spawn of Sobek or the Large Crocodile and feel like they achieved something.

Why should we be forced to hire a PvPer for protection? And I guess you could get surprised that someone like me could be able to kill Spawn of Sobek alone, but not even I know if I could since I haven't even been able to see the mob.

And have I ever said that any of them can't be nice? When did I do that? *looks confused*

(Wonder why @Ariella Shadowdancer is trying to move over the focus on me instead of focusing on the issue)

 

Not all the PvE community feels the same way you do.. So, when you are expressing your opinion, you are speaking for yourself.

No one is forced to hire PvPers for protection. Just a suggestion. I am not surprised if you can or can not kill Spawn of Sobek alone. I have no clue if you can or not. Just saying if you or anyone can kill it alone then you or that person can handle yourself or themselves in the PvP zone.

Sorry, I implied you think PvPers are bad.. that's my bad for implying that.

Edit: You opened this thread, so the focus is on you.

 

I think with a good moral System around pvp the idea of having pve zones that dont allow villains to get into are a nice idea.
Just said.

 

What @redfish said is true, it's about lore and story...

 

I like, i dislike, i like, i dislike...

I am GREY

 

The focus is on you because it's your very specific and personal problem with which you came to this forum.
It may come as a surprise but your issue might be a non issue for other people.

 

I would think all aspects of the game should be available to any style.

You should not have to PVP or join a guild or group or be a PVEer for that matter to have access to all the game has to offer without dying constantly ingame.
If this isnt the final result of the game then yes in order to access all aspects of the game you are hearded to a playstyle you might not like.

Some will deal with it some will leave but to think its not noticeable to todays gamers is a big mistake.

I dont pvp right now might in the future but depends on what i am doing.
I do not mind guilds or helping guilds but after player funding sota will not player fund a gamers personal account that decides to dump tons of cash in a guild and all you hear is donate donate donate I would rather donate to my account.

All aspects of SOTA should be available to all without having to get involved in any one style or social interaction unless they wish to.

 

Sure I am the OP editor, but you are herding the issue away and concentrating solely on me, trying to hide the issue behind the pointing of the finger at me.
So I am not sure why you are even posting here...

 

And yet alot of people are agreeing with me, surprising eh?

 

No. Same as it isn't surprising that you flat out ignore the people that don't. It's actually a pretty common behavior around here

 

I don't like to be forced to specialize in any way, I want to be able to play they style I want whithout getting specific skills/spells to fight people, I have had my share of PvP and want to stay away from that stress. But we will never know if I am able to kill Spawn of Sobek by myself, since it is stashed away in an area where I wont go.

 

Who have I ignored?

 

So you only wanting people posting here that only think as you do?

 

God i didnt want to get into this but i am!
heres my simple solution -

whatever anyone does there should be a reward for that particular thing, and it should not be shared or spread out even across the board it should only be for that particular thing.

Crafters - should craft thier hearts out and get bonus's on crafting only.

Pvers - should get rewards based on thier pve play only.

Pvprs - should get a bonus thats based on thier PVP prowness etc...

ok ,. ok RPRs should get bonus's for thier RP as well,

None of them should cross contaminate the other!

You need to pick what type of player you want to be and go with it! In addition to that anyone who is familiar with D&D should also know that when you become a mage thief, or barbarian cleric, that you do not get the full potential of either/of the types of classes they are, it always takes longer to gain in skill when you've cross contaminated classes (playstyle)

I think we all realize this will never be a potential PVP type game, because everyone can be anything! That is the main problem with this game! You cant get mad at someone because all they do is fight, just like you cant get mad at someone because all they do is craft, they will gain far more experience in what they spend most of their time doing! they earned that! (imagine how stupid it would be if someone rage quit because someone else crafted better than them? Or Rp better than them, or PVE better than them. What would make this game more meaningful is if, each person was special in thier particular play and bonus's were given for that particular thing they do! Devs need to stop trying to satisfy everyone and say tough you want to get that then get out there and do something that gets you that!!!! This game is based on choices, you have to pick in order to accomplish certain things (Choices) Some things are not really needed, but instead wanted free of work.

 

Not going to that area is the choice you are making. But you are also partitioning and wanting to change my PvE experience and to me that is not acceptable. Posting here in this tread, is my choice. You made this thread and posted in a public forum.. if you did not want my opinion then you should have made a private thread to the devs.

 

heres something i do to get around the want..........

ok so if i want to go kill someone and i cannot do it myself i either hire someone/ or go with a group that i know can kill that person! thats the multiplayer/friends/social aspect of this game!

 

Different people come to a game like SotA looking for different things. Some are searching for a good adrenaline rush. Others are looking to compete and win. Others like achieving significant goals that they set for themselves, without consideration for what others are doing. Still others like to socialise, or appreciate the opportunity to be creative. There are also those who are motivated by a mix of these.

Looking over the comments, there seem to be instances where a poster motivated primarily by one of the above completely fails to see the perspective of someone motivated by another. If you wish to convince somebody with your argument, then you first need to understand their argument. That requires empathy, which is often in short supply.

 

If you adress the problem instead of pointing finger alone, then you could contribute to the thread... But by only pointing finger it seems like trolling.