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  1. MrBlight

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    Was there ever any discussion / outcome to the idea of having bar-room card games or dice games, or general casino type games in SOTA?

    Was just thinking, man that would be an excellent gold sink.

    Im positive this thought or discussion has come up in one place or another.. What was the outcome?
     
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    No particular outcome. The last time it was really discussed was a couple years back (give or take). Long before any dev might be willing to make any sort of commitment one way or the other.

    Games in general were also discussed and it seemed at the time devs were in favor of putting more games in (ie backgammon). I'm not really sure what happened to that but I could speculate that it's one of those "beyond the scope of EP1" ideas.
     
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    Really?
    I would think that a simple card game .. or even a rip off of current games would be relativly easy to implement?

    Was just thinking.. like Fable 1, 2 , 3 had games like this. All the fallouts..
    hell even the old Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic .. which is ... how many years old? had in game - games like this.

    I think it would be nice if they looked into implementing something relativly soon. Especially with the idea they want to do a Brewing release.
     
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    I got Mayweather 100k IGG! :D
     
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    The first gambling affair in our game, was between myself and @Gabriel Nightshadow , over the outcome of a fight between two contestants in a PvP tournament, where the looser would buy a mutual friend of ours a gift from our add-on store.
    I lost that bet :( and I've been looking for another PvP fight where I can get some odds on that gambling scallywag @Gabriel Nightshadow during our next gambling encounter to get back even with him o_O~Time Lord~;)
     
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    Yeah but all those games had a publisher with deep pockets. Every features costs money in time and resources. Even 'easy' ones. Which features should be put on hold to get this in?
     
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    None imo.
     
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    I wouldn't want to see any features get put on hold but with all the time that has been spent on decay, a card game could have easily been implemented by now.

    *EDIT - Same could be said for all the time they have spent changing combat. Not dogging the dev team, just giving my 2 cents.
     
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    Id love to be able to step up to a blackjack table with 3-4-5 other players with an NPC as the dealer.
     
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    Port is in the US, Port supports RMT, if Port enabled gambling in game it is effectively allowing gambling in real money. I can't imagine the'd manage to get away with that for long after an irate parent contacts the revalent authorities after little Johnny steals mommy credit card to buy COTOs to participate in a high stakes poker game.
     
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    I actually asked this during a telethon at least a year ago and @DarkStarr mentioned it was more likely to come in Episode 2. I have long been trying to open "Cordelayne's Cafe" in @EclipseMaiden town of Celestial Gardens. Table games, dice games, you know, the usual Buc's Den kinda stuff! ;)

    Hopefully this will truly come to pass in Episode 2.
     
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    really good point! I wonder what the legalities are
     
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    I find it highly unlikely a gambling system would support betting in COTOs. At least I wouldn't design it that way.
     
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    his point I think is more around jonhhny buying 100,000 gold for $50 and then gambling with it.

    Im really not sure how that would work legally... but I would think since Port does not sell gold that it would be ok. Would be like me going to a casino and using cash to buy someones chips, walking in and then using them at the blackjack table. I dont think that would be illegal.
     
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    I brought it up cause it might be more problematic if we could game directly with COTOs.. but you could argue that since Portalarium does not redeem COTOs or game gold for cash then it's not RL gambling. Any RMT is between players with no set rate of exchange.

    The concern over little Johnny using his parent's CC is no different than if he were buying anything else from the online store.
     
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    Depends on how old that individual was and in some states you'd probably run afoul of reporting requirements if the $$ was high enough.
    If you want to gamble, why wouldn't you use COTOs? They are the most stable token in the game to real money, everyone knows how much they cost and you can sell them for cash at a reasonable exchange rate. Even better, Port's "trusted partners" will be able to buy and sell COTOs so they could serve as the cashiers of the SOTA casino...
    Except that Johnny might be under the legal age to gamble which puts any organization that allows him to do so in a world of hurt.
     
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    I instantly was going to say the decay bs. Lol.
     
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    There's no way for Portalarium to know who's actually playing. It's not like there's a photo ID requirement at login. It is the responsibility of whomever owns the account to control who has access to it.

    If I wanted to gamble with the idea of earning a real world profit, first of all I wouldn't do it in a game. I also wouldn't design a system to support use of COTOs for this very reason. I would not want to encourage in-game gambling for real world profit. The intended design would be as a gold sink.
     
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    Think doing cotos is un necissary.
    Use igg. Pretty much solves all legalities as port doesn sell gold directly.
     
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