New stuff on the addon store!

Some of us are more pissed because this stuff should have always been cheap to have a lower point of entry and have more people playing but they treat things that should sell for very little to attract people... They treat that like gold but turn around and practically give away things that people gird it up and fork over money for things like the citizen pledge because that was the only way to get a lot. They have given away everything.
Some of this stuff should have been priced reasonably from the beginning.
Anyone who forks over a lot of money for heraldry will probably end up feeling stupid when they give it away like they did when they originally charged a lot of money to even have the option. Oh, but be careful if you mention it, you'll be modded into oblivion. If they had charged very little for blazons in the first place it would have been so much better.
It was their fault for not understanding what creates value about their product.
If feels like they are doing their damnedest to poop all over their own work and the folks who gave them money. You jerk owners crapped all over my friends (fellow players) and I am mad at you for robbing them.

 

I'd take everything you read on these forums with a grain of salt. It's about lack of transparency and devaluation of things that were previously rare, mostly. As a returning player, it probably does not actually affect you unless you are a player vendor making money in the game.

 

Oh please please tell us how the "1%ers" and their "investment" alone enabled Portalarium to make SoTA. 11 people donated $10,000 or more in the original Kickstarter, $110,000 out of 1.9 million. I think the game would have been made just fine without them.

 

I'm happy to see items separate from bundles. I think this is a good move. Also, thanks for bringing back the headless mask.

 

It's time to reduce the price of the bundles in that case tho, because as others have pointed out they no longer financially make much sense.

 

I'm not sure you fully understand the meaning of that term. It can mean many things besides a fish. For instance in places like Las Vegas "whales" (what you refer to as the 1% or the "high rollers") are considered extremely important to the financial health of the city. Now Vegas knows how to make money! They recognize that it isn't just the guy spending 20 minutes or half an hour at a slot machine that makes them millions - its the high rollers at the tables that do. I wonder that would happen if the casinos started removing their practice of treating the 1%ers (whales) to perks and focus on the folks spending much less?

I just hope people don't forget that these "whales" are the same people that continue to drive most of the spending on this game, organize and execute almost all of the community events in this game (at even greater investments of time and money), support the Game's RL charity drives like the Aeira (sp?) fund and other such things. What would happen if these "whales" stopped their participation in it's various forms? Would you still say they are unimportant and spat with derision?

 

They do if you want a tax free lot deed.

 

Should just add the HoB Cabinet of Virtues to the add-on store for $4.99 while you are at it guys!

 

I'm fully cognizant of the definition and etymology of the term...

By anyone's standards I am one.

 

My .02

It sucks to see the add-on items undercutting the market price, but the writing was on the wall about a year ago. So I started to sell off all the things that I felt I wouldn't be sore over if they lost value. What I have left, is what I am comfortable with if this game were to close tomorrow. I honestly don't know what will happen with this game, but I am of the opinion that if the game were to close, that would be much worse than the drop in value of a CF Vendor. As many have pointed out earlier, Expert tables are all over the place for use, so was never any real value in them. I just throw them out on the lot for everyone to use, just like hundreds of other owners. If these two simple changes bring hundreds of players back, more power to Portalarium!

EDIT ADD: I have to apologize, I forgot they added rare pets to this. That is quite a sting and was not necessary to do in the name of drawing new and old players back to the game.

 

Which still gives the coin to them and not the RMT, so still a better choice for port.

 

Are you daft? If it's always better for me to wait then I'm not buying things anymore because I'm always waiting. If I'm not buying things anymore, it doesn't give ANY coin to port. That's the point.

 

@Lord Trady of Blix is exactly correct.

This is about:

1. lack of transparency
2. the unilateral and arbitrary destruction of value

This afternoon, a seller messaged me saying he has a cf vendor available for sale (I had told him previously I was seeking one more). Immediately I sent him the $100 Paypal payment. Literally, 5 minutes later, I noticed this post https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/buying-cf-vendors.141024/ on the forums mentioning that "vendors are on sale for $39"

What?

I go to the Add-on store and to my horror saw indeed, cf vendors being sold for $31 (among many other bundle exclusive items).

I immediately contact the seller to explain what happened and to request that my Paypal payment be refunded. Thankfully, after several hours of back and forth I got my money back. (Thank You: @Humanexperiment for your understanding)

Anyhow.

What the hell is happening with this game?

Sorry, there's no better way to put it.

I was happy playing this game -- buying items both from the Add-on store and from the player market.

And now, I feel so stupid paying over $300+ within the last week for 3 cf vendors, that could have paid for 1o cf vendors today.

Sure okay, rationalize it as the "end justify the means" scenario and I'm just expendable collateral damage.

But I'm done with spending. I'm done having confidence and faith in the company and this game.

I'm truly touched by Portalarium's concern and care for their players.

 

When concerts move to bigger venues to meet demand, do you guys get mad because you already got your ticket from a scalper?

The inflated price that CF vendors had from RMT is not an actual valuation of the product, it's simply a ludicrously high middle man cost created by the fact that CF vendors were more popular than bundles containing CF vendors. When you have a situation like that, splitting the more popular item off on its own is a perfectly sound business decision, because there are more people willing to pay a lower cost for CF vendors than were wiling to buy the bundles. Everyone who is mad about this is complaining because they decided to speculate on a product that had an artificially inflated price based on a poor business decision by Portalarium and didn't get out before the bubble burst.

 

That's not waiting then is it. That's not buying. Buying on sale, which will happen, is waiting, and that's still money to port. Maybe redirect that daft comment closer to home huh?

 

Disagree - They are exclusive Kickstarter Pledge Rewards from my understanding.


Source: https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/?p=24856

• ** Exclusive Early Founder Rewards **
• (* Exclusive Early Founder Rewards are only available to Backers who pledged any amount prior to May 20, 2013)
• Rent free, City Level Property Deed, transferable between players.
• A special, commission free Vendor!
• Your in-game avatar will receive the honorific title of “Count” and “Baron” to be proudly displayed in gold colored font for all to see (title visibility controlled by player).
• A uniquely identifiable Founder’s, waterfront Frigate, fit for a Baron, floating on the water, attached to your City property by a bridge (**City waterfront lots available to City property deed holders; early founders and higher value pledges have lot selection priority **)
• Available only to early backers, be the envy of the neighborhood with your upscale, Early Founder Baron’s home!
• Your very own, unique, Founder’s house servant, appropriate to your stature as a Baron!
• Two Expert level crafting stations for your home, uniquely identifiable as Founder’s crafting stations.
• A unique piece of furniture, fit for a Baron, identifiable as a Founder’s piece, as a digital, in-game decoration for your house.
• Get your very own, unique Founder’s house pet, to lavish you with adoration every time you return home!
• Town Hall group video conference with Richard “Lord British” Garriott! (one video conference per group; groups up to 10)
• Printed City Property Deed, hand signed by Richard “Lord British” Garriott
• Special Founder Level plaque as a digital, in-game decoration for your house

Look:

• ** Exclusive Early Founder Rewards **
• (* Exclusive Early Founder Rewards are only available to Backers who pledged any amount prior to May 20, 2013)
• Early Founder Tier Price: $750
• Be the envy of the neighborhood with your upscale Early Founder Knight’s home!
• A uniquely identifiable Founder’s, waterfront Knightly Lighthouse, sitting on an island, attached to your Village property by a bridge (**Village waterfront lots available to Village, Town, or City property deed holders; early founders and higher value pledges have lot selection priority **)
• Your very own, unique, Founder’s house servant, appropriate to your stature as a Knight!
• One Expert level crafting station for your home, uniquely identifiable as a Founder’s crafting station.
• A unique piece of furniture, fit for a Knight, identifiable as a Founder’s piece, as a digital, in-game decoration for your house (What could it be? A Knight’s Round Table, perchance?)
• Your in-game avatar will receive the honorific title of “Sir/Dame” and “Knight Commander” to be proudly displayed in gold colored font for all to see (title visibility controlled by player)

Of course not sure what source you are using.

But that is the problem. Confusing sources and understanding depending on what source

 

I have an opinion o/

Personally, I dont buy high dollar stuff from 3rd partys in video games. So im super happy that more stuff is being made reasonably available on an official level.

 

In principle, I agree with you 100% and I don't do it either. But when stuff is reportedly "rare" or "never to be made available again" those people who DO buy third party are expecting what they buy to remain that way.

 

Didnt it stop being exclusive a long time ago tho?

 

I don't know how you figure that. If something is declared, at its creation, to be a limited run of some description, why would that change in the future? People take descriptions to mean what they say.

Again, I don't go in for third party stuff because I think RMT is a pox that ruins games, like it's ruined Shroud. But I think it's entirely fair if an item is supposed to be available in limited numbers, that it stays that way.