#SaveOurMines

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  1. Earl Atogrim von Draken

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    #DontSaveOurMines
    #IDontCareAboutMines
    #INeverEntredASingleMineAndFarmedTonsOfOreAnyway
    #AndSoldIt
    #AndUsedItToProduceATonOfStuff
     
    Earl Atogrim von Draken, Apr 25, 2017
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    I see no problems at all with what is happening to the mines. Should a miner have less risk than an adventurer and be able to profit more? The answer is no.

    Nerf away.

    #NerfEveryMine
     
    E n v y, Apr 25, 2017
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    Sounds like fire is the way to go. Those ghosts are tougher than they used to be, even more than Liches that I can fight with archery.
     
    Arya Stoneheart, Apr 25, 2017
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    If thats your stance then I will add mine..

    NERF your experience you get from fighting and make armor degrade faster than it does now!
     
    Malimn, Apr 25, 2017
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    The risk was always there and the profit never was. (At least not compared to the profit of adventuring).
     
    Bowen Bloodgood, Apr 25, 2017
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    Sure as long as we nerf the xp from gathering/crafting as well...... got to play fair.

    Makes no difference to me in the slightest. In fact great idea.......this would make some skills worth levelling.

    #NerfEveryMine
     
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    The risk was minimal and profit has always been there both in selling resources for $ and selling resources for Gold.........let alone actually doing things with resources and selling finished items.

    #NerfEveryMine
     
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    Tell that to everyone whose goods sit on vendors not selling.. or how much people spent training up skills only to not be able to sell.

    Also tell that to everyone who died in Elysium a couple days ago. :) Ghosts and high level archers in top level of Crags may be of no risk to you but some of us are still under level 65.

    Tier 5 may be of no risk to you but most adventure scenes are about the same. Heck at level 63 my miner got chased out of the first area of spectral 3 times the other day.

    The other day we had a lovely discussion as to why goods are so over priced on vendors in part because people are pricing to make up for what they THINK they should've earned if they'd gone adventuring instead. It's no wonder the devs say stuff is just piling up on vendors.
     
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    Sounds like lack of demand and over supply........#LowerPrices #NerfEveryMine #NeedMorePlayers

    Try an easier mine.......Owl's Nest is quite good.

    :)
     
    E n v y, Apr 25, 2017
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    So you agree.. less profit. :)

    Har har.
     
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    #saveElysium !!!

    Please unclone Graff instead and leave Elysium alone!!
     
    cyathome, Apr 25, 2017
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    #SaveOurMines
    #savecrafting
    #savethegame
     
    Arya Stoneheart, Apr 25, 2017
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    Graff was the original though. :) (Sorry just being nitpicky you can ignore me :) )
     
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    #SaveMeFromAllTheseHashtags... :)
     
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    I agree that if you cannot sell something you should lower the price. If there is so much around that doesn't sell then its a sign over supply......that starts with resources (hence nerf the mines).

    Glad we agree

    #NerfEveryMine
     
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    #NerfTheHashTagsAlongWithEveryMine
     
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    Pretty sad half my friends list is in elypsium every day. Those are the same people who have 10+ gms in crafting I mean great for them they never need to buy gear from another player.

    The whole point of the crafting system is to have a circular economy. I sell u a bow and buy a nice piece of leather gear etc.
     
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    Well thats part of the problem.....resources are far too easy to get there. I would also add that it wouldn't surprise me that a lot of the people protesting of a possible nerf probably live on its doorstep (thats just a guess.......I could be wrong......maybe)
     
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    So if you can't sell you're not making as much profit.. if you have to lower the price you're not making as much profit.. BUT.. if you cut the supply you justify higher prices which is contrary to your argument. Besides, you're not accounting for the lack of demand here.

    If you want prices to stay low, that starts with resources.. High supply of resources does not account for the low demand of over priced finished goods.

    If you want to lower prices you're not going to do that by making finished goods even harder to make.
     
    Bowen Bloodgood, Apr 25, 2017
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    Another way to look at it.. high prices drive people to be self sufficient. If it's easier to purchase goods.. people who don't want to mine otherwise.. won't no matter how easy it is.
     
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