In-game and on these forums we take the time to write this note in a book in the game and post it in our guild hall... and respond on these forums so our allies can know what's going on. Let all who read know this note carries the weight of The Order and the agreement of all who sat in our meetings for the last two weeks in it's action. It's words were written by the undersigned and supported by The Order's current guild leaders. All things posted within have been fact checked by The Order and we have done our best to be 100% truthful in all ways. OOC: to build a framework for those confused... this is an example of what we're dealing with and why we're not RPing this role with the following individual: To respond to your public requests for a response... you're not a POT owner and have directly said you're not interested in PvP POTs to me. My comments were to illustrate, as your post does, Serenite's desire to stir the pot with PVP players. You aren't roleplaying. You aren't doing this in-game or coordinating with me. You're simply attempting a character assassination and people continue to come to me (besides EVL... they haven't... but that doesn't bother me as everyone else has and they are a very new guild in this community who sprouted up as I've slowed down doing things trying to get others to do them... lack of relationship means they just don't know me!). As PVP is something this game is still struggling to define I encourage you to continue poking PvPers verbally because it's helping to create PvP scenarios and help it to flourish. Just be careful because the pointy end is pointed at you sir. You've been able to follow scripts I wrote in the history of OoV and as a settler in a town that I named and gave you a script for. You ran with it from there and did okay making it your own story at points. Which part of that came from Sciamano or Minerva? How often do you remember them at my side? Who remembers me being next to Minerva constantly while she plays the role of a hospitalar, event dancer, or crafter? Who knows me to have ever once gone out on a PK contract? The three of us have extremely different playstyles. It's an amazing game that can make a home for all of us. What you might have missed is that I already realized my family was extremely unique and I already announced it YEARS ago in a spotlight saying the best part I like about this game is how it has a home for my entire family even though we are all VERY unique... my wife and I will probably play 75%+ of our coop in-game time in FPO, my daughter will play in SPO and join my wife and I in FPO at times... my brother and I will chat while he helps me with projects around the house about the game, skills, balance, and other things. Now to address the continued attacks on my family which has caused hundreds of people to not understand our guilds and who we are because of your lies in this real world and not in a game world where we are role playing... We are family on Earth. What we are in New Britannia is yet to be seen. I personally don't know if I want to RP the brother of a murderer. Do you honestly think Sciamano is a murderer IRL? No, he's obviously RPing a character here. I'm an Avatar of virtue and we have already talked about how it will work. I'm going to end up fighting him. It's bound to happen. The first time he attacks one of my allies and they ask me for help I'm going to be one of the ones that stands between him and his target. At the end of the day I'm going to invite him over for dinner, watch him be a GREAT uncle to my children, play board games with him, and eat the BBQ food that I cook. Why didn't I defend you against him? Because right before this happens you broke our treaty agreement! It's RP man! Deal with it! Our real life worlds and our game worlds are very different. The passion in this thread is based on real life investment. Most of the others talking in the thread there purchased open-pvp towns with real life money or invested real life time into them. You have not made either of those investments. You did not show up to over 80% of the PvP events for OoV and you did not put a house in Vengeance. You do not own a PvP town. You have not put in the time it takes to be an expert on this topic (you missed over 3/4 of our guild meetings for the last 2 years) and are here specifically to stir the pot. This will be my only response on this topic so others can see (waves @ Rufus D'Asperdi lol) where I stand: PvP player owned town owners need to be made happy. I already feel like the direction of the game is enough to make me happy; but, I realize there are enough that are unhappy this needs to get hashed out. I just don't see how Serenite or your guild fit in this conversation. You are just there to create drama and post off topic. That said, I haven't reported one of your posts because I also feel the forums are public and that you are the subject of one of the posts from an EVL member so you were essentially invited to be there. Just try and be the bigger man here and not stir the pot where it isn't necessary, okay? Order of Vengeance has intentionally not competed with the Virtue League event to see it flourish and, if I'm not mistaken, I'm the first person to publicly try and support their event with protection in a thread they said they're getting griefed in. I haven't read every single post in that thread but I'm fairly sure I'm the only person to offer that support as well. Our allies (Turin and Para) are the ones who killed the OTC attackers when they attacked and kept them dead... NOT the EVL guards or Serenite people. It's a video game that encourages RP play... my brother likes to RP a murdering sellsword... we like to guard people and personally like to RP a chaotic vigilante (notice the whole V thing I did back at an event a couple years ago?). At this event, it was communicated to me, two people who are great friends to OoV and who we consider allies did what we would hope and killed the people attacking... didn't matter why they attacked. And, the two people who are connected through financial payments only (you know the story... I shared it with you... I've even shared it with some on this forum. We had a group of sellswords we hired to help us take back our land... we gave them Malus for their aid and they only have 1 rule: no lies. Everything else goes!) were hired by A PLAYER FROM ANOTHER GUILD THAT IS NOT OOV to kill a guy who talks a lot of crap about being an elite roleplayer and having an elite roleplay community... you. You somehow associate that to us? I'm sorry sir, that's just not acceptable. We actually all talked about it in Ts3 and had a great laugh. Turin and Para have said they'll back OoV and I told them directly that I won't do anything until the peace era passes. More on that below... back to topics at hand. I personally had my non-pvp event (Order's Auction in brit) interrupted by your guilds verbal harassment (Lady Cind actually making degrading remarks and calling one of the attendees a ***** after she turned on pvp, died, and turned off pvp just to come back and insult them only days after she participated in PvP against the people she was attacking at the event!!!) and pvp harassment (after starting a fight several were marked for pvp and she then issued contracts to have them killed during the event with specific messages saying she had ordered the contract). I think that is part of the game. It's roleplay. We handled that so all the attendees were able to enjoy the event. It was questioned several times: is this a pvp event or an auction?! I did my best to keep order... I streamed the entire thing, so if you question it I'm happy to provide video evidence. In the end, I play this game because I love it and the chaos adds flavor. If everything went exactly how I planned it I would get bored. Being able to think on my feet and react to a disruption is part of my task as a coordinator. Dealing with grief is not. What we have going on between our guilds is drama/pvp that came about because of your IRL choice to harass and attack members of the guild before you left. If you had left without stirring up trouble then we actually would have probably RPd with you. No one wants to play with you now so they're playing the game they want: kill William. I'm sitting back and enjoying the fireworks myself. I think it's hilarious to see you claim to want a Game of Thrones themed guild and then get upset at every death. That show is riddled with chaos and death at every turn. The one rule of GoT: don't get attached to ANY character because THEY WILL ALL DIE ... lol. I appreciate Qwark and her group. I mourn for Starman and the drama you brought to his doorstep. I mourn for Luca and the broken friendships you have caused for him. It is all part of online gaming. One person can create so much strife in an otherwise harmonious environment. I don't think you are the pebble that started the ripple; however, you broke our cardinal rule of no drama so you are the one this mandate applies to. You are welcome to respond to this either in character or out. I used both in-character and out-of-character posting antecs because I felt you struggle with knowing what RP is and how to execute it without getting personal. I also felt your lies and deceit were enough that they were causing issues with my RP'd character and I want him to be known clearly. Also, if any of our allies feel the need to respond this mandate is one that will be after no-wipe and doesn't end for a few months IRL time. It forces the guild of Order of Vengeance to not go to war with House Serenite of Grunvald because of the descriptions of it's ruler. As I don't want to spoil the fun of people cyphering what it says I won't go into anymore detail. Just know that as of now if you're an ally of OoV and you attack HSoG you will not receive our aide. The expiration date is listed on the document. To the forum moderators: this post was reviewed by a panel of a half dozen people who verified it's virtue of truth and love. It is compassion for the unspoken and Justice for the stance. It is honorable to defend yourself when you have the truth on your side and you do so for the love of others. I have spoken with virtue and request you allow this in-game and out-of-game spat to play out if no direct threats are made. If a moderator/dev wants to have the translation of the runic they can PM me and I will provide it.