Poll: Adult rated towns/basements in SotA? [UNOFFICIAL]

Truthfully, none. I didn't say I wanted them to add gore to the game, just that I wouldn't mind if they wanted to for whatever reason.

 

Myrcello eyes are full of desire seeing the beauty . The perfect shape of the curves, the desire to feel the taste upon his lips.....


He lifts the beautiful drink horn standing on the taverntable and shouts a toast to all in the FireLotus Tavern... and enjoys the taste of a refreshing Owls Town Beer.

 

So why is murder and cannibalism socially acceptable in a game, but sex isn't? Why wouldn't murder be the exception, and sex the rule? It's that way in real life.

Some folks here must be living in dungeons. There are loads of games with sexual content. Elder Scrolls, Dragon Age 1 & 2, Mass Effect, The Sims, Fable, just to name a few. None of those games come even close to being considered porn! lol There's way more to do in a game than have relationships.

In Elder Scrolls Online, you can exchange rings with anyone and you get more experience points when venturing together. They leave sex to someone's imagination.


I don't like the idea of player run towns for sex. I don't think it should be a graphical reality. If someone wants to role play those activities, or run around naked, it's their own business. But just like Fable blacked out those scenes - and personally I found that a lot of fun - the same could be a part of this game.


It would not make the game porn, but add another layer of realism.

 

A clear 70% majority of voters here seem to be opposed to allowing other players have adult zones for their own roleplay in the game. A decisive vote for Ken dolls and against the freedom of people to do in their homes/towns what they want. I assume that answers my question, at least for episode 1. I would be surprised if Portalarium would go ahead with such a feature as long as it is not supported by a strong majority of people in our community.

I belong to the 30% because I like to prioritize personal freedom, tolerance and choices. A game world also becomes more immersive, believable and interesting if it doesn't exclude aspects that are a central part of human nature and motivation. But concerns such as public image of the game and resource allocation / distraction seem to weight stronger for a lot of people here.

Of course this is good for our own business in Second Life: no adult zones in SotA means less high spending social role players will move from Second Life to SotA

 

you know the opinion of 70 players out of 34k backers, that is really representative. Isn't it up to you, what you do in your house and with whom?

 

I would far rather see relationships than people cutting up the bodies of other players for trophies, reagents or to eat. That so many are advocating for this sickens me. And yet when it comes to people wanting to role play the one thing which we are hardwired for and the only reason any of us are here people act like it is something shameful

You want to see shameful? Turn on the TV and look at what is happening in Gaza where children are being murdered, where aid workers are being murdered. Is sex causing this? is love?

 

It's a game, man.

The game, like many others, also features murder...

 

there is a difference than combat and cannibalism and to be perfectly honest, I have very little sympathy for the people calling for trophies cut from the bodies of there enemies when you have people complaining about 2 people kissing just because they happen to be 2 men or 2 women

 

No, it is not up to you what you do in your house. If your house is not rated "adult" (e.g. adult basement or part of an adult player town) anyone can report you and get you banned if you do something that is inappropriate for minors, even if just as text emote or text speech and while playing with your wife. If a game is rated G or PG and has no adult zones it doesn't matter where you are or with whom you are: any adult word or adult phrase will constitute a ToS violation!

This is why I am part of the 30% who actually support the concept of adult basements or player towns. I think people should be allowed to do in their house or town whatever they want without some child protection filter, as long as they are with consenting people (e.g. people who opted in to "adult").

 

I agree with you on the same-sex stuff.

Still, I'll agree to disagree on this sentiment and stop here. I don't want to derail this thread.

My belief is that cannibalism is no more morally ambiguous than looting a total stranger's corpse for personal gain.

I don't think that we'll change each other's minds though.

 

I had intended to stay out this but seriously? The poll is intentionally skewed to leave the wrong impression. This is a yes or no question written in such as way as to make people voting 'no' sound like a bunch of tight wads.

For one thing. The lack of adult zones by no means reduces realism or immersion or prohibits players from engaging in explicit role play. One could vote no simply because the extra feature is unwarranted and would take up development time with no real benefit. 70% majority you're suggesting want to limit people's RP? Right.

You do realize you can edit permissions on your house right? That people outside probably won't able to hear what's going on inside as conversation has limited range. There are also modes of play like.. Friends Only that you can switch to if you're that worried about it. Oh.. and what about chat channels and direct tells where no one can hear you except the person you're talking to.

So you can.. in fact.. do whatever you want without a filter. Just you know.. use some common sense and don't do it in public on a public channel or shouting while in full open online mode.

 

There is ERP in every game whether developers want it or not. I just don't want to see development resources going to it. I want to kill digital dragons and save the day. These games are typically fantasy, enabling users to do things they can't do in real life, even if morally bad such as murder and cannibalism. I physically cannot just walk up to someone, launch a fireball from my hand into their face and then loot their body, but I do have the ability to orgasm whenever I want. I guess for me that is why I just don't want to see development time and energy spent on it. Though if done without impacting the overall development, go for it.

 

I ask this in all seriousness -- what actually is meant by 'adult role play options'? Is it the ability to do text emotes or do you mean nudity and sex animations? If it's the latter, then I'm pretty sure too much development time would have to go into trying to cover every conceivable bit of kink out there as well as the incorporation of every conceivable gender type with accompanying genitalia including trans* people and intersex people. If I were into BDSM, I know vanilla sex wouldn't really do it for me, thus I'd have to have bondage, flogging, pillory animations along with presentation postures etc. made for the game along with almost every conceivable sex position out there for hetero- ,homo-, poly-amorous sex out there. It just seems like too much work and time spent for an episodic, story-driven game. If this was to be the Ultimate Sandbox Game/ Life Simulator, then sure, why not? But in the final analysis, that's not what this game is. It's not even the Ultimate RPG that Garriott envisioned this game as being; that's a holy grail that can't be achieved, but I digress.

Now perhaps if sex were limited to Sims-like under-the-covers romping or blurred-out animation in a cartoony manner, that's another thing altogether. It'd be much more simple to do it that way, perhaps, if it absolutely has to be in the game.

 

Yeah If you are right then a poll of 1000 likely voters couldn't generate a valid statistic before an election then.. Yet in reality it is a valid statistic of the relevant population.

SotA's polls aren't perfect because people can sign on with an alt and vote, but if nobody used an alt 70 players would be enough to have a valid statistic. Really!

 

I am all for lots of freedoms for players for RPing, control, etc... but dont forget... there will be ppl under the age of 18 playing the game....

 

I agree, the parents should be responsible for those people that are under 18 in this game. There is going to be murder, monsters, body corpse trophies which include hands, scalps, heads.....), griefers (dancing and doing some provocative dances on your corpse). I believe in the last dev hang out they also discussed possibly adding more gore to combat too. I think there should be even a language filter in game for the children

 

I'd be curious aboit the demographic that the poll represents. Because there are an awful lot of old school, old fogies who have no clue about the number of games that have sex, let alone imagine kids actually having sex chats in games.

Kambrius, why would sex in a game have to be all or nothing? Most games out there that include sex have not resorted to the things you describe. That would be taking it to a whole new level. I don't imagine this is the kind of innovation RG had in mind. lol

The poll could have been written more comprehensively - I'm all for including sex in a game, Sims-like without being explicit, and for the purpose of player satisfaction that doesn't necessarily lead to a benefit. But to isolate it to only certain areas might turn those areas into red light districts, or a bit seedy feeling.

From hearing some ideas here, it seems some people believe they should only include elements in a game that we aren't allowed to do freely in real life (well, unless government sanctions it, as in war), such as killing, looting and cannibalism. Doesn't make sense to me, but people have weird hangups about normal human activity.

I do agree that nothing would stop or prohibit someone from RP sex in the privacy of their online home, so I don't perceive a benefit for developing sexual content unless it has some sort of benefit . I also understand it may not need a direct benefit in single player mode, other than psychological . I just really doubt they will use development dollars for it, as Kambrius pointed out.

 

Hey you know what that's a great point. What you do on your own time in your own private house (in reality) is none of my business, but if it is in an online world where it segments the population and is quite frankly many of us think is a silly feature that does bother me. So why make such a big deal to try and force the devs to waste our donation money to build a feature that most of us don't think is even necessary... that does bother me.

Most people don't want religion in the game either. Shouldn't we all have the right to have our religions in the game? Crosses and temples built in the name of J**** C*****. NO, those things are out of place! Also if they had to make special zones just for that type of activity it would be a waste of our pledge money. That type of game play has nothing to do with SotA, also some argue that having such things in the game would ruin immersion.

**I edited the name above so I do not get moderated. It might be a interpreted as being an offensive word like cussing to use that name. I don't know, just being safe.

 

The religious people could make the same arguments you make. They could say I want a cross with J**** on it so I can put it in my basement and anybody who wants to participate in this can come into my RELIGION FLAGGED BASEMENT. The creation of a big cross with J**** nailed to it would waste the dev's time.

PvP is a different thing. There is a place for PvP. There is a use for a PvP zone. There is no particular need for a sex flagged zone.

** Name edited for PC police.

 

Vendetta, I really like your posts and not trying to point things out, but when you say statements like "we" and "our" and "us", you are effectively saying you speak for the whole community. I know that what you are saying you strongly believe in, but this is your opinion, not the whole communities opinion. I just wanted to point that out and not trying to diminish your statement at all. *bows out*