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Discussion in 'Release 34 Feedback Forum' started by Violation Clauth, Sep 29, 2016.

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  1. Violation Clauth

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    From two days ago:
    VirtueCourage: 335
    VirtueLove: 250
    VirtueTruth: 58

    From today:
    VirtueCourage: -1
    VirtueLove: -1
    VirtueTruth: -1

    I don't have anything nice to say so I will say nothing else about this matter. I will be logged out waiting for a contact that you have fixed this before I can continue. Thank you.
     
    Violation Clauth, Sep 29, 2016
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    I'd like to have my Truth reset back... but please keep everything as is... (▰˘◡˘▰)
     
    Kabalyero Kidd, Sep 29, 2016
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    Hello,
    I have the same with my chars.

    Regards
     
    Phoenix007, Sep 29, 2016
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    Confirmed on mine as well.
     
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    mine as well
     
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    Interesting.. I would like them to reset the quest flags too, since a lot of the virtue points come from them.. right? If we could redo the quests... ;)
     
    Cinder Sear, Sep 29, 2016
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    Attenwood Portalarian Emeritus Dev Emeritus

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    The Virtue stats are now purposefully being obfuscated. They have not been changed. Players must speak with the Oracle to get a sense of their virtue.
     
    Attenwood, Sep 29, 2016
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    While I understand why it may have been done, this will make it harder to test virtue-related things in the future.
     
    LoneStranger, Sep 29, 2016
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    I think when they do things like this, it means, they no longer need our help in testing this feature. :(
     
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    Attenwood Portalarian Emeritus Dev Emeritus

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    I love testing, and recognize the difficulty that this change has caused.

    I will move this thread to feedback so it may have the proper discussion it deserves. Thank you for reporting. Direct all complaints to @Lum the Mad
     
    Attenwood, Sep 29, 2016
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    hahaha... poor Lum... ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )
     
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    Accidentally double clicking an item in front of a merchant instead of the merchant was already bad enough. Now I don't get too know how much damage was caused by that mistake?

    Also, what is the point of outputting the value with /stats if it's always -1?

    And, how do we correct or virtue scores if there only exists negative actions?
     
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    It was never our intent to expose virtue scores publicly. In fact it breaks pretty key parts of the game.

    You also are never intended to min/max your virtue no matter how badly you may want to. Life is imperfect and so are you.
     
    Lum the Mad, Sep 29, 2016
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    Then remove it from /stats. Don't just output -1.
     
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    Go Lum! Go Lum! :)
     
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    Lol you and me both! ;)
     
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    @Lum the Mad My milk this morning had gone a little off, I did not enjoy my cereal as much as I thought I would.
     
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    Didn't they say they were removing the ability to view your virtues in /stats with the Oracle confession daily in the postmortem when discussion the financial changes?
     
    Silis, Sep 29, 2016
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    Oracle is broken then... I have visited the oracle before and it forgot that I have progressed with virtues... so you're saying /stats show the wrong virtues (instead of removing the virtue information you guys actually manually recoded /stats to show the wrong virtues for anyone who was positive per your comment) and the oracle doesn't know anything about the past... I'm lead to think that this information is incorrect based on the following conversation... NOTE: I have visited the oracle before and asked about the virtues before.

    [​IMG]

    Also, my cloak isn't glowing any hue ... everything points to my virtues being reset... can you please give me a working way to know because the game is already 100 times way too cryptic in what is and isn't bad...
     
    Violation Clauth, Sep 29, 2016
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    Also, I logged back out and I'm waiting for a reply so you're welcome to check my avatar directly at your convenience.
     
    Violation Clauth, Sep 29, 2016
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